(08-18-2015, 01:21 PM)Someone else Wrote:  

(08-18-2015, 11:53 AM)empirefantasy Wrote:  watch tutorials for Cprogramming

(08-18-2015, 11:53 AM)empirefantasy Wrote:  Cprogramming

(08-18-2015, 11:53 AM)empirefantasy Wrote:  C

Y NO C++?

Because you can't expect someone to learn C++ before actually learning fundamental programming concepts in C (and learning C is no different than learning C++ without OOP anyway). Most universities don't even teach C++ they first go with C and when the time comes to OOP they teach it via Java or something easier than C++'s OOP (at least in my country). I usually respect C++ devs but it has it's own pros and cons, a good programmer should know what language/framework to use in different situations and if efficiency is not the primary concern, I think it don't worth the trouble.

(08-18-2015, 04:11 PM)Nightmarex1337 Wrote:  Because you can't expect someone to learn C++ before actually learning fundamental programming concepts in C (and learning C is no different than learning C++ without OOP anyway).

Which fundamental programming concepts are you talking about? I see no reason to learn C over C++ when you are starting out learning, heck I see no reason to C over C# or Java.
I have defended C++ for not actually being a difficult language to learn, but I cannot do the same for C, as it simply is a harder language to start out with than necessary.

Take for example a program which reads a string from stdin until it encounters an EOF, then reverses the string, and finally prints it to stdout.
In C this would require manual memory management and probably also pointer arithmetic both of which are completely unnecessary for such a simple project, and not something a new programmer should have to worry about.
In C++ (as well as C# and Java) on the other hand you can use string classes which handle handle the memory management for you, and give you a much more reasonable way to work with strings.
Reversing is available in C++ simply by calling the reverse algorithm, so there is no need for pointer arithmetic either.

Here is a list of C++ features that C does not have:
C++ also offers a stricter type system, namespaces so you can structure your code properly, templates, so you can write generic code, without the use of macros as well as member functions.

All of that is useful even if you are not using object oriented programming, which to be honest I rarely am anyway.

(08-18-2015, 04:11 PM)Nightmarex1337 Wrote:  Most universities don't even teach C++ they first go with C and when the time comes to OOP they teach it via Java or something easier than C++'s OOP (at least in my country).

That seems really silly. Like if they want to start out without object-oriented programming then fine, but if they then later want to teach it, then having to switch to a different language is a bit silly.
It seems to make more sense to just start out with Java, as that is still a reasonable place to start out.

(08-18-2015, 04:11 PM)Nightmarex1337 Wrote:  I usually respect C++ devs but it has it's own pros and cons, a good programmer should know what language/framework to use in different situations and if efficiency is not the primary concern, I think it don't worth the trouble.

I completely agree with everything up to "and if efficiency is not the primary concern". I mainly program in C++, not because it magically produces faster code (because it does not).
Instead I do it because it allows me to write code in a way that is more natural to me. I write code faster and better than in languages like Java and C#, because I am more familiar with the language, and it fits my style more.
I still do not see why anyone would pick C for anything except for maybe the lack of a C++ compiler and possibly interop with other languages. Especially someone starting out with programming should pick ANYTHING different from C.
and brainfuck, assembly, hardcoding machine code etc.