Move After Death on Stage Mode

[RUDOLF27]

I noticed only recently that "Move After Death" will not work on Stage Mode since chars disappear when already dead.

Is there a way to make it work? Or is it possible to make certain id's not to disappear when already dead? I'm not sure if there's a dc way though... :confused:

Pls. help, thanks!

[MH-Razen]

oh yes, remember Kingdom LF2? The Knight you kill before you can free bat dont disappear - the secret, well, you know that with state 14 the frames will be repeated with wait: 0 and opoint work - doesnt matter if the char disappear or not. What I did? A object stay with this fighter in stage and so it's right in place when the fighter die. Then you need to find out which lying-position it has - there're four possibilities. I created a system where the a itr/kin 8 is on the right half of the char and since this object dont turn around it's always the right side and you can already detect to which site the char fell down - right or left, then for the position, if he fell on back or on stomach - make it with two different objects activated from the two different lying.-frames.

Actually I'm not happy with this explanation - but it's possible.
Best would be if you download kingdom lf2 and have a look at it and then ask questions

[RUDOLF27]

First, sorry for the very late reply. I left LF2 during this time. :D

I analyzed how you made it in Kingdom LF2 and noticed that you used criminal.dat to do that.

Now, what I'm about to do is to retain the move after death in VS Mode and then add this system for Stage Mode. I just hope that it would be successful, though... :thinking:

And also, one problem would be is using ratio and times for the char with move after death at stage mode... Not all will proceed with the move after death. :s Though I might use it only for my 3 bosses without ratio and times to avoid the problem (I have 1 soldier with that move, but I'll just disable it then). :)

Reply if there's something you can add... Thanks! ;)

And you can move this to Data Changing Section...:D

EDIT:
I WASN'T SUCCESSFUL AS OF THE MOMENT... :thinking:

HERE'S THE DETAILS:
1. I copied Kingdom LF2's boss knight, removed all the unnecessary codes:
stage.dat

Code:

        id:  37  x: 1000  act: 310  hp: 50      #boss-knight
        id: 300  x:  300  act: 102            #boss-savedead

criminal.dat

DC-Code: <bmp_begin> file(0-3): sprite\sys\knight_dead.bmp w: 109 h: 60 row: 2 col: 2 <bmp_end>     <frame> 102 knight-savelife (stage1-2) pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 102 itr: kind: 8 x: -5000 y: 14000 w: 10000 h: 500 dvx: 103 injury: 0 zwidth: 500 itr_end: <frame_end> <frame> 103 knight-savelife (stage1-2) pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 102 itr: kind: 8 x: -40 y: 15000 w: 10 h: 100 dvx: 110 injury: 0 itr_end: itr: kind: 8 x: 30 y: 15000 w: 10 h: 100 dvx: 117 injury: 0 itr_end: itr: kind: 8 x: -40 y: 15500 w: 10 h: 100 dvx: 124 injury: 0 itr_end: itr: kind: 8 x: 30 y: 15500 w: 10 h: 100 dvx: 131 injury: 0 itr_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 104 knight-savecrim (stage1-2) pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 0 next: 133 <frame_end>   <frame> 110 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 3 state: 3005 wait: 30 next: 111 centerx: 56 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 111 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 3 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 112 centerx: 56 centery: 53 opoint: kind: 1 x: 55 y: 53 action: 313 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 oid: 37 facing: 0 opoint_end: <frame_end> <frame> 112 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 3 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 113 centerx: 56 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 113 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 3 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 113 centerx: 56 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 114 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 3 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 115 centerx: 56 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 115 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 3 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 116 centerx: 56 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 116 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 3 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 116 centerx: 56 centery: 53 <frame_end>     <frame> 117 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 1 state: 3005 wait: 30 next: 118 centerx: 53 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 118 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 1 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 119 centerx: 53 centery: 53 opoint: kind: 1 x: 55 y: 53 action: 313 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 oid: 37 facing: 0 opoint_end: <frame_end> <frame> 119 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 1 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 120 centerx: 53 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 120 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 1 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 120 centerx: 53 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 121 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 1 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 122 centerx: 53 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 122 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 1 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 123 centerx: 53 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 123 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 1 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 123 centerx: 53 centery: 53 <frame_end>     <frame> 124 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 2 state: 3005 wait: 30 next: 125 centerx: 70 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 125 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 2 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 126 centerx: 70 centery: 53 opoint: kind: 1 x: 55 y: 53 action: 313 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 oid: 37 facing: 0 opoint_end: <frame_end> <frame> 126 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 2 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 127 centerx: 70 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 127 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 2 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 127 centerx: 70 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 128 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 2 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 129 centerx: 70 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 129 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 2 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 130 centerx: 70 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 130 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 2 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 130 centerx: 70 centery: 53 <frame_end>     <frame> 131 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 0 state: 3005 wait: 30 next: 132 centerx: 39 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 132 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 0 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 133 centerx: 39 centery: 53 opoint: kind: 1 x: 55 y: 53 action: 313 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 oid: 37 facing: 0 opoint_end: <frame_end> <frame> 133 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 0 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 134 centerx: 39 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 134 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 0 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 134 centerx: 39 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 135 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 0 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 136 centerx: 39 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 136 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 0 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 137 centerx: 39 centery: 53 <frame_end> <frame> 137 knight-keyguard (stage1-2) pic: 0 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 137 centerx: 39 centery: 53 <frame_end>   <frame> 138 knight-savecrim (stage1-2) pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 20 next: 139 itr: kind: 8 x: -5000 y: 19000 w: 10000 h: 500 zwidth: 500 dvx: 399 injury: 0 itr_end: <frame_end> <frame> 139 knight-savecrim (stage1-2) pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 0 next: 1000 opoint: kind: 1 x: 0 y: 0 action: 104 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 oid: 300 facing: 10 opoint_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 399 delete pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 0 next: 1000 <frame_end>

knight.dat

DC-Code: <frame> 310 boss-transform (stage 1-2) pic: 1000 state: 8037 wait: 1 next: 999 dvx: 0 centerx: 39 centery: 99 bdy: kind: 0 x: 0 y: 14000 w: 80 h: 500 bdy_end: <frame_end>     <frame> 311 knight-dead pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 1000 bdy: kind: 0 x: 30 y: 15000 w: 10 h: 100 bdy_end: <frame_end> <frame> 312 knight-dead pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 1000 bdy: kind: 0 x: 30 y: 15500 w: 10 h: 100 bdy_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 313 knight-savecrim (stage1-2) pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 10 next: 1000 bdy: kind: 0 x: -5000 y: 19000 w: 10000 h: 500 bdy_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 399 delete pic: 1000 state: 3005 wait: 0 next: 1000 <frame_end>

2. I tried it and it worked fine.
3. I copied the necessary codes above to my character and changed the necessary id's and act's...
4. It wasn't successful.

Pls. help, thanks! ;)

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esp. MH-Razen... ;)

[MH-Razen]

for a quick look - i think you missed that i changed the lying frames of knight-dat - the itrk8 from criminal.dat has to have a bdy where it can go to...

if this dont help I`ve to take a closer look

[RUDOLF27]

Thanks for the reply...

I'm messing up with my data since I wanted to retain the move after death in VS Mode and then add this system for Stage Mode...

Is it possible?

And also, when I add your system, and you played the character in VS Mode, it does not show the statistics screen in the end of the fight. So it's really meant for stage mode...

I might as well make 2 chars for each character, one for VS Mode and another for Stage Mode...

EDIT:
And also, you cannot add 2 chars with that system in one phase... I need at least 3 and it does not work...

[MH-Razen]

ok i really need some details on what you want to do as "move after death" and on how many different chars, msimply cause I cant imagine your plan and so I cant find a solution.

First: VS and Stage are so totally different. In VS you have to implement the move after death in the char itsself since you cant activate the object through stage.dat - so you must decide if this move you want is specific for the char or an addition for this char just in stage mode.

So please tell me more infos!

[RUDOLF27]

Thanks for the reply!!!
Here's my list of concerns & solved ideas:

1. In Kingdom LF2, Knight cannot be played in VS Mode since it does not show end statistics when it dies... Just press F4...
> I just made 2 separate data files for each character, one for stage mode, another for VS mode...

Code:

id: 57  type: 0  file: data\cyberdem2.dat #stage mode only (not yet)
id: 56  type: 0  file: data\paelem2.dat #stage mode only
id: 59  type: 0  file: data\mancubus2.dat #stage mode only
id: 57  type: 0  file: data\cyberdem.dat
id: 56  type: 0  file: data\paelem.dat
id: 59  type: 0  file: data\mancubus.dat

2. In Kingdom LF2, you cannot have 2 characters with move after death in one phase... (I wanted 3 characters to work...)
> I have no solution for this one...

Code:

<phase> bound: 900
id:  56  x: 1000  hp: 100 <boss>   #Paelem
id: 302  x: 300  act: 102             #Paelem_dead
id:  59  x: 1000  hp: 100 <boss>   #Mancubus
id: 301  x: 300  act: 102             #Mancubus_dead
<phase_end>

Code:

id: 301  type: 5  file: data\doom_death.dat
id: 302  type: 5  file: data\doom_death2.dat

This will not work... I'm just wondering, it's almost always Mancubus that will have move after death and I don't know why... And there are lot of times that Mancubus uses Paelem's move after death...

3. In Kingdom LF2, Boss knight always stays when it dies.
> My characters does not always stay... (Mancubus almost always work, though...)
(it works at random esp. Paelem...)

I uploaded the datas, hopefully you can see what I might have missed...

Thanks!

EDIT:
I also uploaded the sprites if ever you wanted to test it too... Thanks!