[MOD][BETA] ?F2

[Icrine]

It's so beta, the name is still pending!

But I figured sharing it here would be a great idea, so I can get feedback on how to improve it.

I've been playing LF2 for over 5 years, never done any major mod project but I decided to put my skills to the test!

This version only has Firen, Davis and Woody.

Download Link:
http://www.4shared.com/file/yqWGtSUa/CF2.html

Giant Screenie: (Not really)
http://a.yfrog.com/img256/2788/screencap.png

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GF2 Movelist
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Davis
*****
Dragon Tears - D^A

Demonic Grasp - DvJ
(Catch -> Hellfire: A)
(Transfer move to: Swift Strikes -> A without grab)

Swift Strikes - DvA
(+ A...)
(Dragon Tears -> D^A)
(Smackdown -> JA)

Commando Dash - >>A
(+ A...)

Demon Dash - JA

Gravity Blaster - D>A
(+ A...)

G-MOVES:

Heaven's Hell - DvJ + DJA
(D to end)

Sacred Strike - DvA + J
(D to end)

Woody
*****

Phoenix Dash - D>J
(D<J airtime combo)

Force Spin - DvA
(Use to disable opponents or push them back to a position for Phoenix Dash)

Energy Blades - D>A

Flip Strike - D^A
(+ A...)

Teleport - DvJ/D^J


Firen
*****

Fire Blasts - D>A

Explodion - D^J
(+J...)
Fire Lance - >>A

Crystal Lavasurf - D>J
(D to end)

Flamethrower - DvJ
(D to end)

Volcanic Strike - DvA

[vandesdelca]

screenshots or animation please...

[Reaper]

Yep, screenshots would be very nice. I actually tested it, but most of the others will want to know what they download.
Anyway,
I just started out with Davis as he was the first char there:
D>A: Pretty basic attack. Nothing too annoying about it, except for the fact that when it turns into the bigger ball, it sometimes keeps hitting an object, causing annoying sound effects.. And if you spam it like the computer players does, it gets too strong.
D^A: Nice idea. However, those balls should disappear faster. Right now it seems a bit overpowered to me.
DvY+A: Can be used nicely together with a weapon or D^A, but definitely should cost some mana. Especially as it summons those flames( which I personally don't really like. They are a bit too many and he doesn't do any move to summon them)
DvA: Rather expensive compared to the other attacks, but ok. There aren't big differences towards the special move of the normal davis, though.
JA: Very nice combo potential, but too many flames. If you have two or three of those chars fighting, you'll get a pretty much covered screen. Again it should have a little mp-cost.
DvJ+DJA: Doesn't seems very special to me.Shouldn't those moves be some kind of hell-moves?
All in all a quite interesting char( He reminded me a bit of reinforced LF2). There are some balancing issues, but other than that he seems fine to me. It would be cool if you could do some new sprites for him, though.

Woody:
-D>J: Not really different from the normal tiger dash. Additionally, it looks kinda weird if you hit the enemy from the side and he flies upwards. If this is ment to be used twice in a row( forward and backward), i'd like to point out that you'd need almost full mana for it.
DvA. It doesn't cost any mana, is almost unblockable and hits every enemy around you? This attack definitely needs to be balanced. Additionally, I'm missing an explanation why woody just moves his legs and pushes away an enemy standing some meters away from him.
D>A: Nothing much to say about it. Again, the flames might get annoying.
D^A: Again no mana costs? Nice sprites, though.

I must say, I didn't really like that woody. On the other hand, however, you can make a whole lot of things better by simply adding some mana costs. Is he going to get a hellG-move as well?

Firen:
D>A: I don't really like the idea of letting it block weaker balls. The attack just doesn't look like it and as it still has a low bdefend:, it will look weird if the enemy blocks( ball will pass him without doing damge)
D^J: Enemy get's stuck in the fire frame when he is hit. Add some fall: value to make him fall to the ground. Additionally, those ice/fire-columns are too strong and break into ice shards.
>>A is ok, but looks kinda static.
D>J: same as D^J
DvJ: Flames are moving too fast to be seen properly.
DvA: It's a nice idea for an attack, but it would be really great if the stone could come out of the ground instaed of materializing in the air.


In conclusion: For your first real project, it is a great start. Most attacks are rather basic edits, but they work quite nice in game. However, many of them are far too strong( which you actually should notice by yourself when testing it) and need a higher mp-usage. Some bigger sprite edits would be nice, but aren't essential.
Just as a side-note: I mentioned Reinforced LF2: It's a pretty awesome mod with also partly very overpowered attacks, especially concerning amount of flames etc. used. However, the damage value is adjusted to that. So if you actually want to have your screen full of flames and stuff, you should change the damage instead.


@below: Lol, probably one of the worst typos I ever had. If you are too lazy to check your post once...

[Memento]

Some nigger sprite edits would be nice

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Also, just a suggestion, try to keep the moves original.. Rather give davis a beam attack than shooting balls for exemple, or give firen a set of melee attacks. Originality is what makes a mod cool

[Icrine]

Thanks for the replies so far, FYI I have not got around to completely balancing mana cost and damage yet. I'm trying to finish up the movesets first before I go on to those

For the part about firen's attacks burning the enemy but not making them fall to the ground, it was intentional so firen can follow up with another move (such as one of the explosive columns, which I know aren't balanced at all).

Haven't been able to change the broken_weapon effect for the columns either, can anybody point out where the frames are that trigger the broken ice animation?

Missing hell move ideas for woody right now, I can't think of anything that isn't generic like what davis currently has, and I don't think I'm too great at DCing to come up with anything too impressive.

[forgetlatios]

there are no such frames. its an id thing :P
btw, the stuck in fire frame thing could ruin the game... as you may or not know, a char is always recovering fall points. so, if you stuck everyone in the fire frame, you could hit them one by one as they would never got out of the fire frame. until theyre hp runs out. some ideas...
woody tiger dash---> fly further/dash from air/short and spammable?