Doj wanna learn DC, teach Me.

[~Dome~]

practise is the best practise

Mixing stuff together, playing with values and things like that is a good way of getting better.
But it needs time, dont rush into things just by reading endless tutorials. Do both, but take your time.

[DoIIIi]

thanks Dome
I'd be interested if that all work what i want to test

but when i can cay, that doesn't really help dome^^

i just need some illustration something like that

hm by the way how you guys learned this? just read any tutorials or by getting realized about the program language?
for example, it's interesting how simply work this walking (as simple basic example certainly)

advanced work it is something like that by bashcrazy

there aren't much bmp.datas to make this effect...so it's dc. i would be happy about a illustration or similar to this

[Monolith]

I learned,i dont know,i just looked how its done and then i trying to understand what and how is done (tuts help and members),its easy (to me basics)like for bg contest.i was noob with bg dc,but after reading bg tut with explaining about main things in frame,i learned.
Yes,playing with values and frames are best option.

[bashscrazy]

I would tell you how I did that but I'm swamped with a 7 page assignment due on the 16th and 3 exams on the 15th, 16th and 17.. I can help on the 18th when I'm freee!!!

[A-Man]

Hope this helps:

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pic: tells the number of the sprite used by that frame
state: tells the computer wat this frame really is [{defending(state7)}, {attacking(state3)}, {teleporting to the nearest enemie(state 400)}, teleporting to the nearest ally(state401)}, transforming(state 80xx when xx is the id number of the character U wish to transform into)}]
wait: for how long is it gonna stay in this frame ( 1 is 1/30 of a second ).
centerx: it is the position of the shadow from the character in the x-axis(horizantly) {can be found easily using Azriel's data frame maker}note: don't confuse this with the dvx
centery: it is the position of the shadow from the character in the y-axis(vertically) {can be found easily using Azriel's data frame maker}note: don't confuse this with the dvy
dvx: it let the character move automatically forward if in this frame (or backward if the dvx value is negative)note: don't confuse this with the centerx
dvy: it let the character move automatically upward if in this frame (or downward if the value is negative)note: don't confuse this with the dvy
next: tells the computer what frame should come after this.

hit_a: tells the computer what frame should come if attack button is pressed and if U are in this frame
hit_j: tells the computer what frame should come if jump button is pressed and if U are in this frame
hit_d: tells the computer what frame should come if defense button is pressed and if U are in this frame

hit_Fa: tells the computer what frame should come if the combination of (defend+forward+attack) is pressed and if U are in this frame ("F" stands for forward and "a" stands for attack{defend is not in the shortcut because all the combinations use it})
hit_Ua: tells the computer what frame should come if the combination of (defend+up+attack) is pressed and if U are in this frame ("U" stands for up and "a" stands for attack{defend is not in the shortcut because all the combinations use it})
hit_Da: tells the computer what frame should come if the combination of (defend+down+attack) is pressed and if U are in this frame ("D" stands for down and "a" stands for attack{defend is not in the shortcut because all the combinations use it})
hit_Fj: tells the computer what frame should come if the combination of (defend+forward+jump) is pressed and if U are in this frame ("F" stands for forward and "j" stands for jump{defend is not in the shortcut because all the combinations use it})
hit_Uj: tells the computer what frame should come if the combination of (defend+up+jump) is pressed and if U are in this frame ("U" stands for up and "j" stands for jump{defend is not in the shortcut because all the combinations use it})
hit_Dj: tells the computer what frame should come if the combination of (defend+down+jump) is pressed and if U are in this frame ("D" stands for down and "j" stands for jump{defend is not in the shortcut because all the combinations use it})
hit_Ja: tells the computer what frame should come if the combination of (defend+attack+jump) is pressed and if U are in this frame ("J" stands for jump and "a" stands for attack{defend is not in the shortcut because all the combinations use it})

sound: tells the computer what sound file(wav) should be played in this frame.[ e.g: sound: data\007.wav .].

mp: here right the amount of mana this frame will use

other frame elements:



first the body and its job is to show the region were the character can be hit when in a frame
bdy: (it shows the beginning of the body sub-frame)
kind: 0 (its regularly 0 {the other kind is rarely used so I am not gonna explain it)
x: and y: (show the pont were the body will be extended from)
w: and h ({w stands for width and h stands for hight} and here U can write the width and the hight of the body )
bdy_end: ( it show the end of the body sub-frame)

and the whole body "sub-frame" can be find easily using Azriels frame maker.


second interaction and its job is to show the region of an interaction (any thing that affects the opponent mainly attacks )
ltr: (it shows the beginning of the interaction "sub-frame")
kind: 0 ( there are a lot which I don't really have time to explain)
x: and y: (show the pont were the interaction will be extended from)
w: and h ({w stands for width and h stands for hight} and here U can write the width and the hight of the interaction )
dvx: it let the character who is strucked by this lts move automatically forward (or backward if the dvx value is negative)
dvy: it let the character who is strucked by this lts move automatically upward (or backward if the dvy value is negative)
fall: the job of this is to tell whether the attack is heavy(make the foe fall imediatly {use the value 70}) or light(doesn't make the character fall{use a value under 70} ) note if the value is under 70 (light) the values will be added till it reaches 70 and the foe will fall.
vrest/arest : this will tell if the attack will hit more than a foe or only one(arest for a single enemy and vrest for multiple enemies)
injury: here right the amount of damage the attack will inflect.

and the interaction"sub-frame" can be find easily using Azriels frame maker.

its very basic and if there is any thing wrong please tell.

[DoIIIi]

many thanks A-MAN ! i think that could help
and bashcrazy that would be great if you tell me that secret

[Hero destroyer]

@mono, yes.

hm by the way how you guys learned this? just read any tutorials or by getting realized about the program language?
for example, it's interesting how simply work this walking (as simple basic example certainly)

advanced work it is something like that by bashcrazy


there aren't much bmp.datas to make this effect...so it's dc. i would be happy about a illustration or similar to this

Seriously, that is SO NOT advanced. All you have to do is set the "wait" correctly, dvx and dvy should be perfect and you're done.

The important parts about DC are:
-First, make sure you have Azriel's VFM(that should help a bit with those x,y tags)
-Understand correctly about the state and the basic frame(Ex: Louis dash punch will end up in frame 94, if you don't know that, you'll get confused)
-Learn how to calculate "the wait"(Not gonna explain since Azriel already explain it on mainsite)

You know, Doj, I used to be like you, not knowing anything at all. I couldn't sprite nor DC. After that, I have a bit of feeling DC is easier and I learn it ONLY with the help of a Data-Changer. Notice the differences in the frames, then ask yourself:
-Is the problem about the state or itr or....?
-Compare the speed in the game.
-Never give up unless how matter you try and couldn't find the answer, then search for help.

I recommend you study brick by brick like this:
-First, learn the basic moves like hit_Da, hit_Uj....
-Second, learn the effect in itr and state in the frame
-Third, learn about the basic points in c_point and the vaction
-Fourth, learn itr/kind and the frame that CAN NOT be change(if changed, it will crash and everything stop working properly)
-Fifth, start learning dvz, dvx and dvy, negative mp, negative next, negative wait, facing....
-Finally, if you think you're good, learn the key system, place holer...that MH-Razen posted on the mainsite.

As for the x,y in bdy, c-point, wpoint and itr, Azriel VFM would be perfect for calculating that.

Here's a file I have when I first try to learn the important parts of DC that I don't know, something you have to remember.

By the way, hope this helps. Happy coding!

[DoIIIi]

@Hero Destroyer, you're top
i think that will be as much help!

template-deep move.i just copied the dash by deep and change some values.
i think it's a good start which i can do.

[Hero destroyer]

Can't see it, please upload it again.