New Forum Rules

[YinYin]

i do have an IRC link at the top
only weird thing is that i always get a warning i have to answer with no for it to work
so who is having what problems with the web irc we have here? it should be accessible for everyone

how about we keep the basic rule as short and precise as possible
but also hide more info/examples on questionable things such as gravedigging etc in a "more..."/"details..."/"examples..." spoiler box
because many newcomers may just not be familiar with these things/terms at all (not that anyone will read it right from the beginning, no need to)
but it would help for everyone who wants to read up on it
and obviously our 'COMMON sense' did include quite a lot of explaining so far

• 2. Everybody has his own definiton of "several". If you don't clear it up, people will complain. If you warn me for gravedigging, I can argue back saying several for me means something else than several for you.

  its the same as double posting
  if you post something valid for the thread to actually get back up and recent it will not be gravedigging, no matter how old the thread is (if its all too old you might include that fact in your "digging" post and state why the hell you are bringing things back up so noone gets confused - not all that hard to do)
  if you post something that doesnt contribute to the thread enough to give others a reason to reread it (and give everyone a *wherethefuckdoesthisoldthingcomefrom*feeling) you might only be bumping it for your own sake
  and thats the part that is unwanted

  3. I can make 4 posts in a row saying relevant and sensible things. Is that alright then?

  they will be automerged
  also you can always edit your last post
  and you can also delete your last post and post a new one including the last posts content and your new post/edit
  depending on how important you may think your new post to be (should it bump the thread or not?)
  and if your new thoughts are really all new and different to your last post and some time has passed a double post is totally ok to clearly seperate your new text from the old one - no problem there, but tripple or more are hard to imagine (then you are really just talking to yourself and noone cares)

  Spelling part: Then it's no problem if you scratch it, right? It only causes confusion.

  only thing i agree with you
  a different phrasing of what it means might be good
  even i could pile up some warning with this that could in the end ban me :D
  wouldnt have a problem with a week off tho
  
  

• All this is solved if you have COMMON sense.

  apparently not - otherwise we wouldnt need any rules
  really if you want to penalize others you better do it fair and on a basis they can understand and not argue about
  otherwise it will more often feel unfair

  Certain degree of offtopicness is hard to avoid. Everyone knows that. A couple of posts in exchange is fine, but when it exceeds that and you would love to discuss it at greater detail and length, open a new topic in the relevant section. Not rocket science...

  one could settle for: you are not allowed to carry off topic discussion over to a new page in default settings(?)
  as in - if someone started talking off topic somewhere on the first page
  every post on the first page is still allowed to somehow comment on that off topic
  but on the second page its not anymore (so if you see your off topic comment on the second page you know that you have to open a new topic about it/pm/irc that stuff and delete the post to not get warned)
  ...
  hm a bit complicated eh ...
  
  

• which would make the rules insanely long and nobody would read them anymore.
  that's our problem isn't it?

  true true
  but even short rules can be refined and made more precise