01-28-2011, 04:20 PM
Would you mind to stop flaming each other? XD
Jup, people started being harsh to some new members. Sometimes clearly too harsh, as you can see on moderated and disposal'd posts.
However, being completely anti-harsh won't be any good, either, as this will nullify any possible learning effect.
I can understand Marshall's point, though i do not necessarylysjkddik (gah... english fail... necessary... ly, necessa GAAAAH).... i do not always agree with it.
He states the forum went much more "hostile" then the very early version of it. It's may evil to say it, but that's the WWW. The more popular a society becomes, the more "agressive" people join it. Early forum = small forum = nice guys only. Biggest LF2 forum = big forum = idiots joining. It's something like a Law of Internet, people should try living with it, f.e. with moderating those guys who are too harsh, which is actually the case here, i guess.
However, i strongly agree to Divisor, some new people are just plainly doing it wrong. This can happen and i don't mind them doing random nonsense in their first post (excludes stealing chars... that's something i will probably even rage at newcomers about).
In this case, imho, the best way is too keep an on-topic post WITH telling the guy (clearly) that he should probably read the rules because he did xy wrong. Ofc, not only posting "Nub, read rules, you will be banned!", but a reasonable, not-spammy, on-topic post... WITH "read rules, you will be banned".
Lately, i started wondering whether the mods went lazy or just "It's so lol, i just don't want to stop it yet", regarding these "XXXBlackwingXXX" guys, because they clearly overdid it, with spamming, flaming, PM-warning (still lol'ing at that) and the rest. Members, regardless of how new they are, should NEVER be allowed to do such a nonsense. Je, they're banned now, but imo termbanning them after the 2nd day (at last) would have been more useful.
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K, i lost trace of what i actually wanted to say...
TL;DR conclusion:
Being too harsh is bad, but in some cases telling people to please obey the rules is completely fine.
And someone *coughdivcough* doing exactly this more often then others, should rather be praised then getting freshflamed.
Hugh, Dragon has spoken.
Jup, people started being harsh to some new members. Sometimes clearly too harsh, as you can see on moderated and disposal'd posts.
However, being completely anti-harsh won't be any good, either, as this will nullify any possible learning effect.
I can understand Marshall's point, though i do not necessarylysjkddik (gah... english fail... necessary... ly, necessa GAAAAH).... i do not always agree with it.
He states the forum went much more "hostile" then the very early version of it. It's may evil to say it, but that's the WWW. The more popular a society becomes, the more "agressive" people join it. Early forum = small forum = nice guys only. Biggest LF2 forum = big forum = idiots joining. It's something like a Law of Internet, people should try living with it, f.e. with moderating those guys who are too harsh, which is actually the case here, i guess.
However, i strongly agree to Divisor, some new people are just plainly doing it wrong. This can happen and i don't mind them doing random nonsense in their first post (excludes stealing chars... that's something i will probably even rage at newcomers about).
In this case, imho, the best way is too keep an on-topic post WITH telling the guy (clearly) that he should probably read the rules because he did xy wrong. Ofc, not only posting "Nub, read rules, you will be banned!", but a reasonable, not-spammy, on-topic post... WITH "read rules, you will be banned".
Lately, i started wondering whether the mods went lazy or just "It's so lol, i just don't want to stop it yet", regarding these "XXXBlackwingXXX" guys, because they clearly overdid it, with spamming, flaming, PM-warning (still lol'ing at that) and the rest. Members, regardless of how new they are, should NEVER be allowed to do such a nonsense. Je, they're banned now, but imo termbanning them after the 2nd day (at last) would have been more useful.
...
K, i lost trace of what i actually wanted to say...
TL;DR conclusion:
Being too harsh is bad, but in some cases telling people to please obey the rules is completely fine.
And someone *coughdivcough* doing exactly this more often then others, should rather be praised then getting freshflamed.
Hugh, Dragon has spoken.
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