07-02-2012, 01:49 AM
(07-01-2012, 06:51 PM)Reaper Wrote:(07-01-2012, 02:04 AM)Evil Sonidow Wrote: God creating the world in 6 days isn't one of the bible's metaphors.I neither agree nor disagree with you, but as you are rather considerate about making clear what's your opinion and what you think of as a fact, I'd be interested in knowing why you are so sure about this part in particular.
I disagree. I've met(in person, I'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands+) at least 3 scholars that agree that it's not saying that it was really created in 6 days.
Anyway, this subject can really be split into two parts ( at least in my opinion ). The existence of an omnipotent magical being and human religion(which obviously references but is separate in my mind).
In terms of arguing the existence of this magical being that created the universe, it's pretty much as equally likely as every other explanation that humans can come up with. I doubt that in our lifetime we'll ever truly understand what happened at "the beginning of time".
Human Religion, they are all bullsh*t in my mind. My explanation for Judaism is that there was some smart dude who saw humans destroying each other and he decided that he could manipulate them through fear of an omnipotent being to make stupid people be less stupid.
The Old Testament actually had many things that made sense (in the past, not now). The 10 commandments are pretty useful, they are basically law in all countries now days because it makes sense. In the past as an intelligent person how would you convince a bunch of retards to not go and slaughter each other? Make them fear this bad a** mofo that we call god.
The Old Testament has parts about washing your hands and stuff. Makes sense. Don't eat pork, pigs were filthy animals and probably spread disease, makes sense. They could use this to motivate people to go to war and due to motivation, win. When they lost they can just blame it on people not believing in god and thus losing.
So in the past religion made sense, manipulate the idiots into not killing them selves and saving large portions of the human population.
Also, the bible was all written by humans, in a language which wasn't English. It was all translated, multiple times and sh*t and organised and interpreted multiple times.
Anyway, there were many religions predating the whole Judaism monotheism thing. Many which share quite a few similarities with our current religions( look up Mithraism yo!). I also remember talking to someone that was talking about "Ugarit" texts and claiming how the old testament was originally written in Ugarit and then rewritten to be monotheistic and thus changing history or something(sounds like bullsh*t, I never bothered looking into it but it sounds plausible).
The current religions are just all wrong. I mean just look at how many sub divisions there are now inside our main western religions and stuff. There are so many disagreements between scholars and stuff, many scholars have completely different and wild theories which most of the public is completely ignorant in regards too(don't get me wrong, so am I. Sometimes I read a bit about it, but then realize I don't care). There is just so much controversy about this stuff and interpretations of stuff. Imagine how many different theories and sh*t happened up to this point.
2.45 am, my post probably doesn't make sense and could be rewritten better too have some continuity running through it rather than just making a new paragraph for everything and having my points be completely random. Still this is lfe, not some English essay that I'm writing.
tl;dr "God" may be real or not real. Our current religions are without a doubt have a very high chance of being wrong wrong.
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