07-03-2012, 08:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-04-2012, 01:22 AM by Apocalipsis.)
A-MAN Wrote:People, lets think about it. Who created yah? where u created from no where? and how come the universal system moves this perfect?. there must be some thing great behind all this. yeah, that is god.
That depends on your definition of God. If you define god as 'something' responsible of your creation, then there has to be a God (unless you're nihilist and don't believe about your own existence or something). My point is, it doesn't neccesarily has to have a mind, behavior or care about living beings' activities at all. That's pretty much the Pantheism point of view, wich I prefer over any other religion with anthropomorfic deities.
A-MAN Wrote:some people simply think he doesn't exist because they nvr saw him. Well then how did u believe in electricity wen u can't c it? how can u believe in electromagnetic radiation wen u can't c it?. well ur answer will probably be: i believe that electricity is here because i can c that light on. And i believe in EMR because i can c the satelite working, and the wireless internet connection there working.
No. I believe in electricity/electromagnetic radiation because there are rational and testable explanations about it. I honestly don't think the same about the kind of God wich "cares" about insignificant beings as humans... and in my opinion, that's a way too anthropocentric way of thinking.
A-MAN Wrote:Similarly, I believe in god because i can c how he made this universe, moving perfectly to suit living organism needs; plants feed on sunlight energy and other minerals in this soil, animals feeds on this plant, human feeds on animals, bacteria feeds on human, bacteria decomposes to form meneral in soil again...... and many other systems that I can't count. Just think about it.. Its not that you can't prove that god is there/ the problem is that you can't prove that god doesn't exist......... prove me wrong!!!.
Again, this kind of thinking make me think about Pantheism/Panentheism/Pandeism. I still fail to see the connection between those system interacting and perpetuating their existence with the veridical or testable proofs about the existence of a God with such superfluous behavior and motivations, or behavior and motivations at all.
Still, if you believe in the human-concerned-God, then anything is possible. I'm ok with people who thinks that, but I tend to get annoyed with people trying to inculcate such thinkings into others, specially when they try to use flawed logic to do it. What I mean is, as response to deep questions these people ultimately answer "because I believe that" or "it's like that". Wich is not a good answer to use when trying to convince others... what do you expect the other person to do with that kind of information?
I only discuss about religion when I'm sure the people involved will do their best to analyse, reason or explain what they are talking about => I rarely discuss about religion.
Tl;dr:
Can't properly explain why you think/believe in something? That's legit faith, I respect it... but try to don't discuss too much.
Can properly explain why you think/believe in something? Interesting, tell me more.

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