Atheism - ? I agree..

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Do we have to have something to fear (like God) to stop doing evil?

This question is like believing that without a God, without fear, evil will occur in this world.
It's like asking, If there is no God, Why be good?
similar to saying If there's no God, we'll all do evil stuff, and commit crimes...
Posed like that, that question sounds positively ignoble.

So, do you really mean to tell me the only reason you try to be good is to
gain god's approval and reward, or to avoid his disapproval and
punishment? that's not morality, that's just sucking up, applepolishing, looking over your shoulder at the great surveillance
camera in the sky, or the still small wiretap inside your head,
monitoring your every move, even your every base thought.

If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed

well, this is a debate stopper,
see if you agree that, in the absence of god, you would commit
robbery, rape, and murder, you reveal yourself as an immoral
person, on the other hand, you admit that you would continue to be a good person even when not under divine surveillance,
you have fatally undermined your claim that god is necessary for
us to be good. I suspect that quite a lot of religious people do think
religion is what motivates them to be good, especially if they belong
to one of those faiths that systematically exploits personal guilt and stuff
It seems stupid to think that, should belief in god suddenly vanish from the world, we would all
become callous and selfish lazy bums, with no kindness, no charity,
no generosity, and nothing that would deserve the name of goodness.
If one realized the two richest men in the world, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, both are atheist but still they both donate 90% of their profit to charity
no belief in god
because humans are actually kind hearted people
as I mentioned in previous posts religion is the sole cause of war.
I'm sorry for bantering and somewhat beating around the bush, but I'm trying my best to prove my point
thank you if you read this fully