Metaphysics anyone?

[A-Man]

Is negligence permissible if a person in question is seeking attention and they come to you for help with the knowledge that they are probably going to harm/kill themselves in the process. While it seems to me that it's not punishable by law for an adult to commit suicide and have other bystanders not do anything about it, when someone can not take care of themselves (under-aged kid, the elderly, and mentally handicapped patients...etc) it seems like the fault is on the caretaker if they were aware of the events that led to the death of the such persons. I'm sure people who are sent to mental wards, hospitals, and retirement homes have to sign some sort of waver saying they are responsible for taking care of them but what about allowing parents to let their children die and have them plea a deal that allows them to avoid prison? are they not murderer's because they were unaware that their child would die? Seems to me that they aren't 1st degree murderer's because they didn't know but would that still make them second degree murders?

Indeed. Being suicidal is a psychological illness, and just like any other physical illness, it needs to be treated. The analogy can continue further. If the caretakers didn't provide the person with shelter (a happy family environment) to protect against cold (premature suicidal thoughts) and sufficient amount food (love and care from parents), then it's only natural to assume it will have a direct effect on the health of that person. The only difference between the 2 is that psychological health is often overlooked, and this is why you often hear parents telling their children: "You have got food and shelter! What more could you really need?".

The reason why i ask is some parent could pray for their child to be healed even though such things could be easily avoided with the help of medical professionals. Here's an example: A family likes to travel to unsafe areas, their daughter gets bitten by a poisonous snakes. They refuse to take their beloved daughter to a hospital because they believe prayer works. She dies the next day. They continue having more kids and do the same dangerous activities. Even though they are oblivious to these patterns of consequences are they still not murderer's? I agree that it can be tricky and things depend on case-by-case situations but i'm just trying to invoke responses from you guys in hopes to getting some of you thinking.

Just ask those believers who believe just praying will do the thing one questions: Why would God have rules that govern the universe and then breaks them? If you believe God is to help you in distress, then you might as well want to try to walk along the steps of logic and reason God created. Make sure you don't say that provokingly, and perhaps they will listen to you.