Little Fighter 3. Hopes and expectations

[MangaD]

Why not to ask for a permission to make a non profit fan game?

And if ain't getting a permission. We can always alter some names, and design elements but make it feel like LF3.

That would be a start. Now you make me wonder why Hero Fighter exists...

But don't worry, soon after you start the project you'll realize that the progress is uber slow and that you were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay above yourself.

Have you ever done such project or it is because you stay with someone else(not member) opinion?

I have worked on a simple 3D game once using C++ and OpenGL Utility Toolkit (graphics). I have modified the HF Room Server written in Java, and want to rewrite it in C++ (network). I have made a simple databases project in which I had to design the whole database from scratch and interact with it via PHP (accounts). And I made Hero Fighter Empire. Also worked on other minor things that are irrelevant now.

My point is, from my experience, those small projects that I worked on already consumed way too much of my time. They may seem small, but for a single person who has a life (family, school, etc), they take a lot of time and work to get done.

If you don't want to base your judgment on a noob like me, then take a look at Marti. Very talented person, made LF2, worked at Microsoft, worked at free lance jobs, made other games, taught programming... here's his linkedin btw. And now made Hero Fighter. Hero Fighter took 7 years of development so far and it is still not finished. Hero Fighter is better than LF2 in many aspects, yet it does not captivate you guys and is no way near to be as successful as LF2 was.

Are you implying that you can do a better job than Mr. Marti? You know what I think? I think you guys are being disrespectful and ungrateful towards Mr. Marti's work. LF3? The arrogance...

If there is someone who wishes from the bottom of his heart for a LF3, that is none other than Marti himself.

Hero Quest started long time ago and is far from finished afaik;

Is that supposed to be an argument against "as there very much negative opinions on that one?".

It is supposed to be an example on how difficult it is to make a game.

LF2 is modifiable, so making characters is totally fine.

Is modifying the exe via reverse-engineering ('hexing') an okay things to do? If not, then on what basis are you judging what's fine and what's not?

No, it is not okay to reverse engineer (hex edit) LF2. If you read the "terms and conditions" upon installation you'd know this.

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Now if you are wondering why nobody got sued here, that's because Marti is a sweet.
(Same cannot be said about U1 Technology though, I heard they sued someone before)

I am afraid you're not being helpful at all.

It is for your own good. If you want to work on a game, go ahead. Just don't call it LF3.