type 3 timers...

[MH-Razen]

<frame> 150 bar_empty
pic: 12 state: 3005 wait: 2 next: 151 centerx: 17 centery: -440 hit_a: 1 hit_d: 158 dvx: 550 dvy: 550 dvz: 550
itr: kind: 8 x: -300 y: -9000 w: 600 h: 300 dvx: 150 itr_end: #characters stick
itr: kind: 8 x: -300 y: -11000 w: 600 h: 300 dvx: 13 itr_end: #delete extra
<frame_end>
<frame> 151 bar_empty
pic: 12 state: 3005 wait: 2 next: 150 centerx: 17 centery: -440 hit_a: 1 hit_d: 158 dvx: 550 dvy: 550 dvz: 550
itr: kind: 8 x: -300 y: -9000 w: 600 h: 300 dvx: 151 itr_end: #characters stick
itr: kind: 8 x: -300 y: -11000 w: 600 h: 300 dvx: 13 itr_end: #delete extra
<frame_end>
if you want to use the ik8 to stick an object to a char then the dvx need to be the frame you're just in. Test it with this and tell me if it work