RaMafia Special - The End

[mfc]

N3
Aman couldn't copy. Tornado dead. Amadis supposedly checked Monk. He tells me the abilities monk already had on my list, we accept monk is like that. Town has no one to save now.

1 Ariel
2 Apocalipsis
3 MangaD
4 empirefantasy
5 Amadis
6 Jernemies
7 mfc
8 Darl
9 Rhino
10 klodasmone
11 A-Man (Leader)
12 Simoneon
13 prinz_freece

D4
Ariel tells he finally was able to check someone for a change, gives us apoc powers which we already knew. We decide between lynching ariel and klod, eventually for certainity, klod dies.
Ef tells that pf is artisan.

N4
I hear a name, who do I hear? I say they kill me as you see me the biggest threat I die first.
Jern blocked ariel?

D5
2 mafia left, 9 townie, I am dead.
1 Amadis
2 Jernemies
3 Ariel
4 Apocalipsis
5 MangaD
6 empirefantasy
7 Darl
8 Rhino
9 A-Man (Leader)
10 Simoneon
11 prinz_freece

Ariel once again no proof, people lynch him but as a twist, gravedigger fakes his death for ultimate revelation.
Now everyone thinks ariel is dead but he can still do checkings with rhino.

N5
They kill now rhino or aman?
Jernemies block aman?
They kill rhino for his very important powers?
Ariel checks amadis once and for all. Sees spy powers. Understands something fishy.
Amadis checks pf and lies and shows him as if he has mafia powers? But if we then lynch pf and see pf was townie he will become suspectible. Then he has to give town safe pf abilities. Town will think pf is townie.

D6
Ef powers are useless now.
Town has to decide now:
1 Amadis - dependable checker of town but is suspected by apoc and ariel knows his real face from gravedigger's chamber.
2 Jernemies - checked by mentalist but even though klod was killed, no mention of any arrestment in any ramond post. fishy enough?
3 Ariel Alive but locked in gravedigger's chamber lol.
4 Apocalipsis - Utterly proven townie because of passive
5 MangaD - was checked by mentalist and proved his abilities
6 empirefantasy -was only useful to town and revealed like 2 mafias, so dependable
7 Darl - monk of the city
8 A-Man (Leader) - poor guy, never was able
9 Simoneon - Townie because of passive
10 prinz_freece -Townie because amadis report

Overall, town decides to sacrifice monk who was on the same boat with apoc suspecting amadis, who he would reveal with his death. town sacrifices darl, and nothing revealed because i want to make it easier for mafia and i render monk 100% useless in this fanfiction.

N6
Now if ariel checks jernemies over fishiness, game is over once he gets out of chamber. but lets say he checked mangad
Who does mafia kill now? I say aman for being dangerous and leader.
Jernemies blocks apoc?
Amadis cries he was blocked?

D7
1 Amadis - Apoc forces everyone to lynch him.
2 Jernemies - checked by mentalist but is suspected for ramond not telling anywhere about any arrestment.
3 Ariel - soon he will get out of chamber lol
4 Apocalipsis - safe because passive
5 MangaD - was checked by mentalist and proved his abilities
6 empirefantasy - useless now but killed many mafias
7 Simoneon - safe because passive
8 prinz_freece(leader) - aint suspected
Amadis dies, people no longer gives a sh!t to mfc's checkings.

N7
Apoc is killed for being too smart.
Ariel checks ef? I am not making him check jern for making things easy for mafia.

D8
1 Jernemies - (PokerFace)
2 Ariel - SURPRISE FEMALE DOGES!
3 MangaD - Lets kill pf?
4 empirefantasy - lets kill pf
5 Simoneon - fine guys, whatever
6 prinz_freece(leader) - dead inactive, doesnt care.
Pf dies.

N8
Ariel dies.

D9
1 Jernemies
2 MangaD
3 empirefantasy
4 Simoneon
They eventually kill jernemies for arrestment not appearing issue, they are tired of this.

Town wins.

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In the case where the 3rd party doesn't exist, Town would certainly have more chances to win. But that's not what we are talking about here. We started this exchange of perspectives of the game because you didn't believe Ramond's 95% chances of winning for Mafia/Monk's faction (it would be the same faction). That 95% is for the real case, in which Darl can convert.

If Darl can convert, I see no problem everyone joining to monk faction and everyone winning. But In the end, monk faction exists and I told already, I see no problem with whole town joining monk's side, including myself. I win it the end.

Also Only way I lose is that if amadis really wants to kill me when I was townie and he changes his religion afterwards, which monks win and nobody has a problem.

But still, I dont know how town would react if there were no night kills, maybe everyone surrenders and be monk side, Who cares, I did my job.

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And I dont know Whether converted mafias can vote to kill others as mafia or not. If they can, Town loses. If they cannot, Town wins by the numbers and fishiness of no night kills and executing monk.

[Apocalipsis]

Please, put that in a spoiler.

I stopped reading when you forgot that when Rhino is killed, the next day is skipped.
Also, I don't see the point... You want to justify that you played correctly, or what? That's unnecessary.

[mfc]

I really hate speculationg over such unpredictable what-ifs but you wanted it. Ain't gonna write more scenarios like this because I hate long fetched what-ifs.

[TheNave]

Yes yes, what happened to "we're going to waste another turn by lynching cosmic again because we don't belive he's actually dead!" and to be honest I find it extremly unlikely for Rhino to use his ability on the one person everyone (except apoc) trusted the least instead of saving it for your or amadis death .____.

But whatever, no need to discuss that any longer... You in for a Vanilla Mafia Round though?

[mfc]

I stopped reading when you forgot that when Rhino is killed, the next day is skipped.
Also, I don't see the point... You want to justify that you played correctly, or what? That's unnecessary.

I am just fullfilling nave's wishes. And that y'all saying town would lose if no 3rd faction talks. I hate whatifs and you are telling that town was a failure over your whatif scenario.

Sorry I forgot to skip 1 day but as you can see, I kept make town killing other townies overall.
And people would feel suspicious of jernemies arresting not coming to light eventually and would kill him.

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I find it extremly unlikely for Rhino to use his ability on the one person everyone (except apoc) trusted the least instead of saving it for your or amadis death

I am useless because no doctor. if he uses it on amadis, people knows one mafia and they lynch amadis over rhino's words next day.
Ariel would be best subject because whatever he claims and his must-be-revealed passive.

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I am in for any mafia games. You better not mock my win after game is over

[TheNave]

Kk, I made a thread for a Vanilla Mafia Round, if I get atleast 9+ people to join, I'll host it

[A-Man]

Yes yes, what happened to "we're going to waste another turn by lynching cosmic again because we don't belive he's actually dead!"

I believe my logic was sound then, was it not? I blame the very eccentric ability given to a coroner.

I find it extremly unlikely for Rhino to use his ability on the one person everyone (except apoc) trusted the least

I wonder if that's really true. I know for a fact he was planning to act independent of the team's plans at one time because he was suspecting a mole in our team. I was careful too by the last round, and something I didn't let anyone know was that my ability had been used up.

In mfc's defense, what he did when he mass-revealed all the roles was correct. The mafia already had all the information, so mfc thought it would be better to just let everyone else into everything. His first mistake was getting greedy over expanding our network and letting you into information without consulting anyone. But that's not very different from your mistake, as you too got greedy for information, even though you already had Amadis in our midst.

And how does one know if the factions are balanced?

The best you can do without using a computer is use common sense and try to picture as many scenarios as possible, which was what Ramond did.

Darl told me that the game would continue even without Mafias left, which is not even the case here... so I don't know what do you mean.
I said "Monk's faction wins" at that point, because Monk's faction would have the majority of the votes and could lynch any unconverted player left during day, or kill them at night.

I didn't know the game would continued until Ramond confirmed just now. I imagined the monk faction were kinda like a force against the mafia running in parallel to ours, the citizens'.

[empirefantasy]

before voting i was between cosmic and darl. i was waiting for ramond confirm if vote was relevant, if not then i would go for darl becouase mangaD said to vote for him. if we suppose that we kill darl, then the monk fraction would stop.

the second target for me would be klod, or maybe amadis if other guys would decide so. also i wouldnt vote for pf until he would appear the only mafia. and mfc requested me this day to check pf, but as we could guess his role, i would check sb else, maybe darl...but useless


can you predict how it would go on?

[CosmicSarasa]

Yes yes, what happened to "we're going to waste another turn by lynching cosmic again because we don't belive he's actually dead!"

I could barely contain myself in the middle of the laughter after reading it. I was about to write Joker's quote..

However, pls MFC, stop! You can't even write some sort of sequence to defend yourself.

[T.O.R.N.A.D.O]

^Well he did though. And you cannot say it's not possible.