F's Artshop

[klodasmone]

Updating, not gravediggin' (maybe a little). A little out of practice, but will do, at least for the moment.

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[Marko]

i would love to see the whole progress of you making this kind of art. It looks incredible

[klodasmone]

i would love to see the whole progress of you making this kind of art. It looks incredible

Thanks, mate! I will do a tutorial eventually, when and if I feel like it. For now check out this old one: http://www.lf-empire.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=6541

[klodasmone]

Double edged sword swings.
Impressive... how you manage to apply 3 random filters on existing photos and claim this is art. Gross. Find some Viking guy that looks nothing like Rudolf beside the fact that they both have long hair. Then filter up, reduce color palette and tadaaah. So called bearded ninja. Shame.

What is art if not a copy of a copy of a copy? Is Marcel Duchamp's ready-made urinal a piece of art? Yes, truly, I think it is. Shameless.

[klodasmone]

Uuuh. It is just sad.
How dare you compare anything here to Duchamp?

And If you dont know, a clear copy of something with no credit is a theft also called a plagiarism. Anything is better than that. Even a guy who in your opinion does not progress, but still creates something with a little of imagination. At least he does something more than mixing two random pics and filters that entirely not blend together.

Learn to respect others and their efforts. Your topic here is a dumpster. PPL liked your images to the moment they understood its all copied sh*t. And yet you leave salty post under work of somebody that is at least trying.

I‘m glad you‘re so offended and care enough to challenge the status quo this much, so I‘ll indulge.
1. I‘m mentioning Duchamp here in the anti-art/Dadaistic sense, when he began using ready-made/found-objects in art in 1914.
2. I don‘t believe in plagiarism laws: All information – written, visual, etc. – should be free, and the government arbitrarily stating something doesn‘t mean it‘s actually good/just for you: In fact, when has the state do something, which isn‘t for its own good/profit.
3. Speaking of HM, he draws the same poses, and is actually using designs from LF2 and DBZ, if not direct imitations from the latter‘s anime screenshots (I mean Vegeta), so how the heck is that not an infringement on the copyright laws? Like I said, everything is a copy of a copy...
4. Speaking of mixing up pics, there‘s this thing called collage, a cut-up technique of images, which appeared, I think, with cubist movement, so it‘s a legit art technique.
5. This topic is a dumpster, I‘m a punk, and I like it.
In vino veritas.

[Lauli]

Well it's nice how you try to build a sense of meaning to your pictures by referencing art history and movements and whatnot, but be aware that your pictures only imply this in a very broad sense - the same way an instagram selfie with applied filters references ready-mades. The connection is there, but not the primary message that's being conveyed.
On the other hand you could always argue that what you're doing doesn't have any meaning and is simply playful fooling around, but then your points about your work being connected to Dadaism and Cubism fall flat, since you're reducing your work simply to immediate aesthetic.

[Hate]

Impressive on how much you don't improve, like, at all.

Well, Impressive on how your (((Art))) is not art all ig?
I don't really think that putting basic Photoshop filters on google images is (((Art))).
Idk man maybe I'm not politically correct enough but ay.. It's just sad.
You're sad.

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[Som1Lse]

I don‘t believe in plagiarism laws

There is a pretty big difference in not believing in a law and breaking it, and this forum pretty clearly has rules against plagiarism.

If it is a image freely available online at least credit that source.

All information – written, visual, etc. – should be free

Sure I believe in free information, but only with a reasonable definition of information. If you ask me art (novels, paintings, photos, movies, games) is not information, and if you disagree with some of those, then where do you draw the line and how do you suppose those working on it should make the money to actually work on it? Creating art isn't free.

The way I try to make information free is by freely providing it myself, and not by distributing others' work for free.

and the government arbitrarily stating something doesn‘t mean it‘s actually good/just for you: In fact, when has the state do something, which isn‘t for its own good/profit.

Free healthcare, free education, enforces laws against murder, protects freedom of speech, roads and other infrastructure, city planning. You can argue that this is in the governments interest as well but I don't care, because it sure as heck is also in my interest.

Speaking of HM, he draws the same poses, and is actually using designs from LF2 and DBZ, if not direct imitations from the latter‘s anime screenshots (I mean Vegeta), so how the heck is that not an infringement on the copyright laws? Like I said, everything is a copy of a copy...

For one thing if you are drawing a DBZ character no one thinks you made up that character yourself, hence it sure isn't plagiarism. No one knows that your images were essentially just filters applied to pictures others had already taken before they started looking for them, because you didn't point it out. Lastly DRAWING things actually takes effort whereas applying random filters doesn't, so even if it totally was plagiarism it would still be better.

Also I said plagiarism and copyright infringement because this discussion is about plagiarism and not copyright as a whole.

Speaking of mixing up pics, there‘s this thing called collage, a cut-up technique of images, which appeared, I think, with cubist movement, so it‘s a legit art technique.

But what you've made isn't a collage so it doesn't matter. A collage takes a LOT of images and makes a new image out of them, which takes planning and effort.

tl;dr: No one cares that you use something else as a base. They care about low effort work and not crediting whoever made what you used as a base.

[Lauli]

This whole thread reminds me a little of this.

[Simoneon]

As a safety measure for further discussion I feel it is important to step in now. I feel discussions regarding art (and plagiarism in this case) is a very common and natural phenomenon and I do not wish to discourage such discussions. However it is important to ultimately keep the tone of the discussion as neutral as possible and refrain from the lowest levels of discussion, which is not only unethical but is also against the rules of this forum. Please keep this in mind and also consider whether a new thread might be needed (up to the OP of this thread, if he minds the clutter or no). If that does not sound like something you would be able to submit to then it is better to move this discussion somewhere else - private messaging might be an option.