Contest #20: Tournament

[Silverthorn]

Alright, once again, thank you all for your participation! I am happy to now announce the final results:

1^st: Lord Silva
2^nd: Everisto
3^rd: Azriel

Congratulations to you!

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After having evaluated all replays, I felt so free to put up some stats about the matches:

Shortest match
17s (Jerkington XIII vs. Everisto, match 2)
17s (Blue Phoenix vs. qwertz143, match 5)


Longest match
7min52s (The Lost Global Mod vs. YinYin, match 3)


Least attack
0 (Emaan Ashraf, vs. Omega, match 2)
0 (Vineet, vs. Redbeard, match 5)
0 (Someone else, vs. Blue Phoenix, matches 3&4)
0 (The Heskey, vs. YinYin, match 4)
0 (xmfcx, vs. The Lost Global Mod, match 4)
0 (Azriel, vs. Kevin, match 1)
0 (qwertz143, vs. Blue Phoenix, match 5)
0 (Jerkington XIII, vs. Everisto, matches 1&2)


Most attack
1480 (YinYin, vs. The Lost Global Mod, match 3)


Least HP Lost
0 (Everisto, vs. Jerkington, matches 1&2)
0 (The Lost Global Mod, vs. xmfcx, match 4)
0 (Kevin, vs. Azriel, match 1)
0 (Blue Phoenix, vs. Someone else, match 4)
0 (Redbeard, vs. Vineet, match 5)
0 (Blue Phoenix, vs. qwertz143, match 5)
0 (YinYin, vs. The Heskey, match 4)
0 (Omega, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 2)


Most HP Lost
1480 (The Lost Global Mod, vs. YinYin, match 3)


Least MP used
0 (Everisto, vs. Kevin, match 1)
0 (Kevin, vs. Azriel, match 1)
0 (Kevin, vs. Omega, match 1)
0 (Someone else, vs. Everisto, match 1)


Most MP used
11250 (xmfcx, vs. The Lost Global Mod, match 1)


Least pickings
Too many with 0 to list them all


Most pickings
32 (Someone else, vs. Bamboori, match 4)

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Moar stats!

The average match had the following stats:
Time: 0:01:24
Attack (winner): 690
Attack (loser): 356
HP Lost (winner): 361
HP Lost (loser): 701
MP Used (winner): 1298
MP Used (loser): 1401
Pickings (winner): 4
Pickings (loser): 3

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You still can't get enough about stats? Here is my txt-file which sums up how well each player-slot performed:

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# of replays: 238

MATCH DURATION
Sum: 5:33:57
avg: 0:01:24

Shortest match
Jerkington XIII vs. Everisto, match 2: 17s
Blue Phoenix vs. qwertz143, match 5: 17s


Longest match
The Lost Global Mod vs. YinYin, match 3: 7min52s


ATTACK
Average winners: 690.4 (sum: 164318)
Average losers: 356.4 (sum: 84812)

Least attack
P1: 0 (Emaan Ashraf, vs. Omega, match 2; Vineet, vs. Redbeard, match 5)
P2: 0 (Someone else, vs. Blue Phoenix, matches 3&4)
P3: 0 (The Heskey, vs. YinYin, match 4)
P4: 190 (ossiee, vs. Kevin, match 3)
P5: 22 (YinYin, vs. Azriel, match 3)
P6: 0 (xmfcx, vs. The Lost Global Mod, match 4; Azriel, vs. Kevin, match 1; qwertz143, vs. Blue Phoenix, match 5; Jerkington XIII, vs. Everisto, matches 1&2)
P7: 298 (Omega, vs. Azriel, match 5)
P8: 175 (The Heskey, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 1)


Most attack
P1: 760 (qwertz143, vs. Vineet, match 3)
P2: 918 (Vineet, vs. qwertz143, match 1)
P3: 843 (Emaan Ashraf, vs. qwertz143, match 3)
P4: 716 (xmfcx, vs. Vineet, match 3)
P5: 1401 (The Lost Global Mod, vs. xmfcx, match 1)
P6: 1480 (YinYin, vs. The Lost Global Mod, match 3)
P7: 957 (Jerkington XIII, vs. qwertz143, match 3)
P8: 718 (The Heskey, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 4)


HP LOST
Average winners: 361.4 (sum: 86002)
Average losers: 701.7 (sum: 167002)

Least HP Lost
P1: 0 (Everisto, vs. Jerkington, matches 1&2)
P2: 89 (Someone else, vs. qwertz143, match 3)
P3: 175 (Emaan Ashraf, vs. The Heskey, match 1)
P4: 135 (xmfcx, vs. Vineet, match 1)
P5: 0 (The Lost Global Mod, vs. xmfcx, match 4; Kevin, vs. Azriel, match 1; Blue Phoenix, vs. Someone else, match 4; Redbeard, vs. Vineet, match 5; Blue Phoenix, vs. qwertz143, match 5; YinYin, vs. The Heskey, match 4)
P6: 0 (Omega, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 2)
P7: 35 (Azriel, vs. Someone else, match 3)
P8: 413 (The Heskey, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 4)

Most HP Lost
P1: 918 (qwertz143, vs. Vineet, match 1)
P2: 957 (qwertz143, vs. Jerkington XIII, match 3)
P3: 944 (Azriel, vs. Omega, match 1)
P4: 625 (ossiee, vs. Kevin, match 3)
P5: 1480 (The Lost Global Mod, vs. YinYin, match 3)
P6: 1445 (Bamboori, vs. The Lost Global Mod, match 4)
P7: 726 (qwertz143, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 1)
P8: 743 (The Heskey, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 3)


MP USAGE
Average winners: 1297.6 (sum: 308819)
Average losers: 1400.6 (sum: 333352)

Least MP used
P1: 150 (Emaan Ashraf, vs. Omega, match 2)
P2: 100 (Emaan Ashraf, vs. YinYin, match 4)
P3: 250 (Azrial, vs. Omega, match 5)
P4: 275 (xmfcx, vs. Vineet, match 1)
P5: 0 (Everisto, vs. Kevin, match 1; Kevin, vs. Azriel, match 1)
P6: 0 (Kevin, vs. Omega, match 1; Someone else, vs. Everisto, match 1)
P7: 150 (Azriel, vs. Someone else, match 3)
P8: 175 (The Heskey, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 1)


Most MP used
P1: 5050 (qwertz143, vs. Vineet, match 1)
P2: 3425 (qwertz143, vs. Jerkington XIII, match 3)
P3: 3956 (Emaan Ashraf, vs. The Heskey, match 3)
P4: 2350 (xmfcx, vs. Vineet, match 3)
P5: 8075 (The Lost Global Mod, vs. YinYin, match 3)
P6: 11250 (xmfcx, vs. The Lost Global Mod, match 1)
P7: 3904 (Jerkington XIII, vs. qwertz143, match 3)
P8: 2948 (The Heskey, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 3)


PICKINGS
Average winners: 3.5 (sum: 826)
Average losers: 2.5 (sum: 593)

Least pickings
Too many with 0 to list them all


Most pickings
P1: 8 (qwertz143, vs. The Heskey, match 4)
P2: 5 (qwertz143, vs. Jerkington XIII, match 2; Vineet, vs. qwertz143, match 1; Emaan Ashraf, vs. xmfcx, match 2)
P3: 4 (Azriel, vs. Omega, match 1)
P4: 5 (xmfcx, vs. Vineet, match 3)
P5: 27 (The Lost Global Mod, vs. YinYin, match 1)
P6: 32 (Someone else, vs. Bamboori, match 4)
P7: 7 (Omega, vs. Azriel, match 4)
P8: 4 (The Heskey, vs. Emaan Ashraf, match 2)

Still not finding what you're looking for? This is the whole Excel-document: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4705...sults.xlsx

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I'm still open to any form of critique regarding the tournament (thanks for your input, empirefantasy!). Mention what you like, dislike, etc, to make the next tournament even better!

[qwertz143]

MAKE THIS A YEARLY COMPETITION!

[YinYin]

The only thing I didn't like was matches not taking place and people dropping out.

Maybe for the next fighting tournament we should use a few pre rounds for qualification that will also make sure people actually participate.
So instead of everyone just posting that they want to join and you wasting time setting up matches with half of them not taking place everyone should seek his first opponent on his own and fight matches for one round according to the rules.

Once the joining phase+rounds are over all the ones that could prove they can arrange their matches and abide the rules are in and you can start planning the next rounds.
That way you would also prevent an odd number of participants.

[qwertz143]

Or we could have this throughout the year and convert this tournament into a league table and each player has to play everyone twice and you get points for draw wins and losses
LFE PREMIER LEAGUE FTW!

[Silverthorn]

I am against disallowing some special moves, or better say limiting the number of them, even this makes a little more interesting since player may be trapped in some moments of the fight since he/she cat use the move that would save him.

I understand your discomfort about the move-limitations. However, these moves have a reasoning behind them. For example, Rudolf's invisibility. At low HP, the MP-recovery is extremely fast and so you can stay invisible almost all the time. Same with Henry's flute. And battling a constantly-fluting Henry on HK-Coliseum is extremely annoying.

Sure, I can cancel out any move-limitations for the next tourney but I am not sure if this will not unbalance the matches completely. Opinions?

Another thing that i would like to be improved are the number of rounds, just seven are less while 15 were too much, but better it would have been 10 rounds, anyways its not a big deal.

In retrospect, yes, 7 might look like it'd have not been enough. In the future, I am going to increase the rounds-per-participants-ratio to something like 1/2 (not 1/3 like this time). We'll see about it

MAKE THIS A YEARLY COMPETITION!

I don't know if I want to have that hassle every year

The only thing I didn't like was matches not taking place and people dropping out.

Fully agreed!

Maybe for the next fighting tournament we should use a few pre rounds for qualification that will also make sure people actually participate. [...]

Sounds like a great plan! Setting up 1 or 2 pre-fights shouldn't be much of an issue; and starting the tournament (with points etc.) after those could really help as well.

Or we could have this throughout the year and convert this tournament into a league table and each player has to play everyone twice and you get points for draw wins and losses
LFE PREMIER LEAGUE FTW!

I don't know how it is for you, but from my point of view, it was quite annoying to run after the people reminding them to get their match done. Doing this for a whole year doesn't sound much pleasant.....
Furthermore, I doubt that many people would like to do this throughout a whole year; especially during the holidays-seasons, things could get quite bad (ie. I love traveling abroad with no internet whatsoever).


By the way, which system do you prefer most?

• The classic one: lose once, you're out
• Modified classic: after two losses, you're out
• Round Robin/Swiss: the system I have used in this tournament

[YinYin]

Round Robin/Swiss: the system I have used in this tournament

[qwertz143]

Round Robin/Swiss: the system I have used in this tournament

[The Lost Global Mod]

Round Robin/Swiss: the system I have used in this tournament

[A-Man]

Round Robin/Swiss: the system I have used in this tournament

[Everisto]

Why Round Robin/Swiss? Here we had a random opponents and it was not until the end of the fair. Those who are not on the podium could be the toughest opponents, and those who are on the podium could have easily.

In my view, the first system is the best. Since winning the best player who eliminates all. This system is the best indicator of the player's skill.

Therefore prefer The Classic system.