[solved] Getting Mp while standing still and a probelm

[Hypermodder]

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@TheNave:
Errr, dude, are you drunken?
Dont you understand what I mean?

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@rest:
Check the f.ckin' link and chang the mp-tags like you change a math-rule! It's just a code based on numbers and words and I expect you to be capable of handling this! Otherwise go back to DC-ing basic steps or change to spriting! I made a study-example, but atm I'm pi..ed off and wont upload it that soon!!

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[Drahcir]

(see above)

*sigh*
TheNave is right--you'd need a positive mp-tag for the standing frames. Or would that still not work?
And by the way, HM, no offense, but on average, your posts aren't all that useful, especially the earlier ones...Then again, who am I to judge?

[JossuaDC]

read above

@TheNave:
Errr, dude, are you drunken?
Dont you understand what I mean?

Posts: 89
Reputation: 0

Posts: 780
Reputation: 16

Don't you think I know about what I'm writing?

@rest:
Check the f.ckin' link and chang the mp-tags like you change a math-rule! It's just a code based on numbers and words and I expect you to be capable of handling this! Otherwise go back to DC-ing basic steps or change to spriting! I made a study-example, but atm I'm pi..ed off and wont upload it that soon!!

Post count is irrelevant.
Hmm, what was the saying again?
Quality over quantity?

Don't try to flame someone based on a fact that might as well imply that you spam a lot.

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Grow some f***ing balls, Hypermodder.

[Azriel]

Will you all just stop with the swearing. I'm getting annoyed at how everyone's just bypassing the language filter and swearing at everyone else.

@HM
you should know better. i know the frustration of people not understanding you after explaining stuff to them a million times over, but just, ignore it.

@Jossua
i'd thought u'd stop by now since the argument in the other thread. at least, keep to the positive side of your now double-sided post.

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[TheNave]

still this is somehow ontopic because Madara still doesn't know how to regenerate mps while his character is standing, but well I'm going to pm HM instead of continueing here, because I'm pretty sure a negavtive mp tag won't incrase your mps in the standing frames :roll:

[Boop]

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@HM TheNave
you should know better. i know the frustration of people not understanding you after explaining stuff to them a million times over, but just, ignore it.
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Typo fixed.

The problem still hasn't been solved, I've yet to see a DC solution of regenerating MP in the standing frame at a high rate. I'm actually quite interested to see how it'd work.

The link to the tutorial doesn't apply (like stated by TheNave, and others, 3-4 times), it uses the -mp tag, which won't work in the standing frames... Then it creates a beer bottle to reduce it down to 500. So even if -mp did work in this case, the character wouldn't be able to hold any weapons while standing + state 17 would have to be used which wouldn't let the character change the direction (if I remember correctly).

[TheNave]

oh ya anway I think I got a solution for this(theory, some disadvantages):
- change the wait of all standing frames to 0
- create some more standing frames to make the breathing of the char correctly(because of the wait: 0 on everyones of them)
- every second standing frame should get a state: 17 and opoints out a beer bottle(which should be invisible)
- the next frame with state 0 should get a weaponact: 1000 to remove the beer bottle again

so it works like following, on the second standing frame a beer bottle is summoned, the character gains some mp on this frame caused by the state 17, the character can't walk,defend,jump,etc. anylonger then, but that isn't really important because that frame got a wait: 0 only, then there is a frame with state: 0 again, the character is able to do all the common actions again, but his beerbottle will be removed(weaponact: 1000), because he shouldn't be able to do something and suddenly the bottle(which was invis) apears in his hand, on the next frame everything is repeated and he gains a little bit mp again, so this should atleast make the mp regeneration A BIT faster...

problem is that he'll loose his currently weapon he's holding whenever he is on the second standing frame... :/


everything still a theory, testing it now

EDIT:
Just tested it:
the weaponact: 1000 has to be in every standing frame... you can change the "wait" of the first standing frame to whatever you want, the char will start regenerating after he reaches the second frame...
else most things are working fine, sometimes he does the light_weapon_attack instead of a normal punch but he doesn't keep the beerbottle and he looses the weapon he's holding while standing

Code for everyone who wants to try it outit's for template only, change his normal standing frames into the following lines...)

Code:

<frame> 0 standing
   pic: 0  state: 0  wait: 10  next: 1  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0 hit_ja: 244
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 33  y: 45  weaponact: 21  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 1 standing
   pic: 1  state: 17  wait: 0  next: 2  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 38  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 33  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
   opoint:
      kind: 2  x: 42  y: -999  action: 35  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  oid: 123  facing: 0
   opoint_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 2 standing
   pic: 1  state: 0  wait: 0  next: 3  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 38  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0 hit_ja: 244
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 32  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 3 standing
   pic: 1  state: 17  wait: 0  next: 235  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 38  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 32  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
   opoint:
      kind: 2  x: 42  y: -999  action: 35  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  oid: 123  facing: 0
   opoint_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 235 standing
   pic: 2  state: 0  wait: 0  next: 236  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0 hit_ja: 244
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 33  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 236 standing
   pic: 2  state: 17  wait: 0  next: 237  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 32  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
   opoint:
      kind: 2  x: 42  y: -999  action: 35  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  oid: 123  facing: 0
   opoint_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 237 standing
   pic: 2  state: 0  wait: 0  next: 238  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0 hit_ja: 244
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 32  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 238 standing
   pic: 3  state: 17  wait: 0  next: 239  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 33  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
   opoint:
      kind: 2  x: 42  y: -999  action: 35  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  oid: 123  facing: 0
   opoint_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 239 standing
   pic: 3  state: 0  wait: 0  next: 240  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0 hit_ja: 244
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 32  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 240 standing
   pic: 3  state: 17  wait: 0  next: 241  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 32  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
   opoint:
      kind: 2  x: 42  y: -999  action: 35  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  oid: 123  facing: 0
   opoint_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 241 standing
   pic: 0  state: 0  wait: 0  next: 242  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0 hit_ja: 244
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 33  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 242 standing
   pic: 0  state: 17  wait: 0  next: 243  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 32  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
   opoint:
      kind: 2  x: 42  y: -999  action: 35  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  oid: 123  facing: 0
   opoint_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 243 standing
   pic: 0  state: 0  wait: 0  next: 1  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0 hit_ja: 244
   wpoint:
      kind: 1  x: 32  y: -999  weaponact: 1000  attacking: 0  cover: 0  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  dvz: 0
   wpoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 21  y: 18  w: 43  h: 62
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>

<frame> 244 mp_wasting_punch
   pic: 10  state: 3  wait: 2  next: 61  dvx: 1  dvy: 0  centerx: 39  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0 mp: 250
   itr:
      kind: 2  x: 26  y: 58  w: 37  h: 23  vrest: 1  
      
   itr_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 30  y: 18  w: 28  h: 60
   bdy_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 23  y: 35  w: 37  h: 24
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>

Defend + Jump + Attack is a useless move which costs 250 mps, so that you can test the regeneration better

[Hypermodder]

found the problem with the regenerating stuff!
I used other exe-file. replaced with normal lf2.exe and it doesnt work anymore.

[TheNave]

@HM
duh, I won't belive you that there ever was an *.exe file on which a negative mp-tag regenerates mps if it's NOT in the first frame of a move...

EDIT: I realised something... if you used a special *.exe file, why did ya show us a (wrong) dc methode(am talking about that link) which is used on the ORGINAL LF2.exe?

@Silva
or is smthing like that easy to do on hex editing? I dunno much about it but I would say something like that hasn't been created yet

[Madara Uchiha]

wow it worked thanks The Nave.