John's Energy Shield

[Tsukasa]

How do I make the shield stay even after when someone runs into it?
[Hope you understood what I typed :S]


I kinda feel bad that my first post is something like this X.x

[Azriel]

in the hit frames, make a next: back to the shield frames. also, make the hit_a: and hit_d: tags in the shield frames 0



Azriel~

[Tsukasa]

Thanks, but.. doesn't that make the shield stay forever?

I do want it to.. uhh. disappear.. just not when a character hits it..

[Som1Lse]

I once did this.

I think I opointed out a ball that reacted as if it were Johns shield and disapeared after three TU's. Then the original shield wich opointed out the fake damager used a hit_a: and a hit_d: to disapear.

But beware that this makes the character very overpowered.

Imagine two shield like this.

> C <

> and < is shields and C is the character. When he touch one shield he will continuesly keep bumping into the other shield and that will do alot of damage.

Hope you understand.

Edit: And welcome to LFE.

5 posts to go.

[Azriel]

then get a clean version of the john_ball.dat, copy the hit frames to somewhere else and renumber them.

in the original hit frames, make it go back to the shield frames (and possibly change pic numbers). then, make the hit_d: in the shield frames go to the renumbered hit frames.



Azriel~

[Ascor]

totaly agreeing to azriel
btw:
this method was my first thought
i always do that if i want things not to disappear (Yes i got secret projects [fun projects or just lil moddings] on my desktop that noone knows o_O )

[Tsukasa]

No luck with that either.. or I did it wrong >.<

I tried something though.. it works.. with little.. err.. flaws?

1> I copied all the shield frames (renumbered them of course)
2> Changed their kind to 0
3> pic: 999
4> Increased itr area
5> Added a frame which would opoint it [next frame to the original frame]

Problems..

1> Character gets hit a lot if they hit the shield from it's back
2> Sometimes (not every single time), when the char hits the shield while running.. the shield disappears [probably increasing the width would fix this..]

[TheNave]

uhm, could you post your code here please? would make it more easy for us(well atleast for me) to understand what ya did^^

[Tsukasa]

Okay.. Sorry ^^;;


Edit: Changed to make it smaller and actually use the shield

john_ball.dat

I copied the shield frames and did this..

DC-Code: <frame> 70 inv_forcefield pic: 999 state: 3005 wait: 2 next: 71 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 centerx: 41 centery: 44 hit_a: 3 hit_d: 78 hit_j: 0 itr: kind: 0 x: 41 y: 28 w: 25 h: 36 dvx: 10 vrest: 8 injury: 40 fall: 70 zwidth: 20 itr_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 71 inv_forcefield pic: 999 state: 3005 wait: 2 next: 72 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 centerx: 41 centery: 45 hit_a: 2 hit_d: 78 hit_j: 0 itr: kind: 0 x: 36 y: 19 w: 35 h: 51 dvx: 10 vrest: 8 injury: 40 fall: 70 zwidth: 20 itr_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 72 inv_forcefield pic: 999 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 73 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 centerx: 35 centery: 41 hit_a: 2 hit_d: 78 hit_j: 0 sound: data\051.wav itr: kind: 0 x: 28 y: 13 w: 41 h: 59 dvx: 10 vrest: 8 injury: 40 fall: 70 zwidth: 20 itr_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 73 inv_forcefield pic: 999 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 74 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 centerx: 37 centery: 41 hit_a: 2 hit_d: 78 hit_j: 0 itr: kind: 0 x: 33 y: 14 w: 36 h: 57 dvx: 10 vrest: 8 injury: 40 fall: 70 zwidth: 20 itr_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 74 inv_forcefield_dp pic: 999 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 72 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 centerx: 37 centery: 41 hit_a: 2 hit_d: 78 hit_j: 0 itr: kind: 0 x: 31 y: 12 w: 38 h: 59 dvx: 10 vrest: 8 injury: 40 fall: 70 zwidth: 20 itr_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 75 inv_forcefield pic: 999 state: 3005 wait: 1 next: 72 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 centerx: 37 centery: 41 hit_a: 2 hit_d: 78 hit_j: 0 itr: kind: 0 x: 31 y: 12 w: 38 h: 57 dvx: 10 vrest: 8 injury: 40 fall: 70 zwidth: 20 itr_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 76 inv_forcefield_dp sound: data\053.wav pic: 999 state: 3005 wait: 2 next: 77 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 centerx: 39 centery: 40 hit_a: 0 hit_d: 0 hit_j: 0 <frame_end>   <frame> 77 inv_forcefield_dp pic: 999 state: 3005 wait: 2 next: 78 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 centerx: 33 centery: 39 hit_a: 0 hit_d: 0 hit_j: 0 <frame_end>   <frame> 78 inv_forcefield_dp pic: 999 state: 3005 wait: 2 next: 1000 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 centerx: 33 centery: 38 hit_a: 0 hit_d: 0 hit_j: 0 <frame_end>

john.dat

Added Frame 307

DC-Code: <frame> 278 force_field pic: 168 state: 15 wait: 1 next: 307 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 dvz: 0 centerx: 22 centery: 78 hit_a: 0 hit_d: 0 hit_j: 0 opoint: kind: 1 x: 73 y: 40 action: 60 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 oid: 200 facing: 0 opoint_end: wpoint: kind: 1 x: 6 y: 54 weaponact: 20 attacking: 0 cover: 0 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 dvz: 0 wpoint_end: bdy: kind: 0 x: 17 y: 16 w: 39 h: 64 bdy_end: <frame_end>   <frame> 307 force_field pic: 168 state: 15 wait: 1 next: 279 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 dvz: 0 centerx: 22 centery: 78 hit_a: 0 hit_d: 0 hit_j: 0 opoint: kind: 1 x: 73 y: 40 action: 70 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 oid: 200 facing: 0 opoint_end: wpoint: kind: 1 x: 6 y: 54 weaponact: 20 attacking: 0 cover: 0 dvx: 0 dvy: 0 dvz: 0 wpoint_end: bdy: kind: 0 x: 17 y: 16 w: 39 h: 64 bdy_end: <frame_end>

Forgot to mention zwidth and state:3005 earlier ^^;;

Louis can walk past.. since he doesn't fall..

[no one]

I don't know what is wrong in your code but I do exactly what Azriel has suggested and I found no bug (if you don't count can't rebound your own ball is a bug).

And for the more-hit-than-usual bug, change the vrest to higher value.