Need help to improve sprite

[MaGmaRinE]

Guys this is my first char I might seriously work on. I know its not good but i wanted to do it really simple

Can you guys give me tips about the shirt, trousers, ect I can improve please? I took john as the base

[MaGmaRinE]

Looks Great for the first sprite why is the neck black

Thx, i need tips though. and it's not the neck... it's his beard

[snorsorbet]

You need to highlight the beard and make it look more like a beard... Right now it looks like a necklace. You could try to do that by making the beard expand towards his mouth.

The outlines for the arms look pixelated, try mixing the shade of the arm with gradually more black towards the edges (like you did on the pants).

You could make the pants end a bit earlier than they do right now, but that is not really nescessary.

[MaGmaRinE]

You need to highlight the beard and make it look more like a beard... Right now it looks like a necklace. You could try to do that by making the beard expand towards his mouth.

The outlines for the arms look pixelated, try mixing the shade of the arm with gradually more black towards the edges (like you did on the pants).

You could make the pants end a bit earlier than they do right now, but that is not really nescessary.

Hm I find the shirt which is, so far, just too plain. Got anything for the shirt?
I'll do something about the beard though. For the pants, I made it fall over the shoes on purpose. Thx for the advice ^^

[Ascor]

There are so many things you can do on a shirt.
If i need an idea of what i should sprite i got out and look around what people wear.
Like:
A necklace.
A logo on the shirt.
A Vest.
And those are just a few possibilitys

[MaGmaRinE]

There are so many things you can do on a shirt.
If i need an idea of what i should sprite i got out and look around what people wear.
Like:
A necklace.
A logo on the shirt.
A Vest.
And those are just a few possibilitys

Oh yeah thanks thats really a great idea, never thought of it ^^
Going to get outside tomorrow and stare at people

Yeah you're right space walk3r though i made it longer downwards
Here I cleaned the sprites a bit and made the breathing frames, going to add something to the shirt next

http://s254.photobucket.com/albums/hh83/...ip0005.flv
Old -> New

[snorsorbet]

It's hard to judge when the sprite is so zoomed, but it looks pretty good

To the animation itself, it looks like his arms are bouncing up and down. Could you fix that? :P

[MaGmaRinE]

It's hard to judge when the sprite is so zoomed, but it looks pretty good

To the animation itself, it looks like his arms are bouncing up and down. Could you fix that? :P

Thx and aren't the arms supposed to move up and down?
I didn't really know how to edit the breathing frames. So by logic, on the 2nd frame I moved the body and head upwards by one pixel assuming that the arms stay at their place, 3rd frame move the arms along, and 4th move the body and head back downwards while arms stay up by 1 pixel.

Maybe it's not the right way to do it, can you explain briefly what I should do please instead then?

[Ascor]

Look here:
Click me.
and here:
No! Click me!

[MaGmaRinE]

Look here:
Click me.
and here:
No! Click me!

Ahhh oookay! I'm going to try it right now, thx!

Edit: thanked him so that later in the way, i can just edit and post this:

http://s254.photobucket.com/albums/hh83/...ip0007.flv
Still looks weird though, is it really better? Don't mind the small samples of colors