RaMafia 2

[TheNave]

@Rhino
I can do the test with you aswell and if you really were switched by the ww inq and if you actually are a townie then you should have absolutely no trouble with it and on top of that you will convince me that I'm wrong and I'll change my vote to somebody else ASAP

[T.O.R.N.A.D.O]

Okay me and Nave had our conversation. Rhino.Freak it is.

[empirefantasy]

i doubt that ww would go and make such kind of coencidence lie.
if they were WW: nave goes and says rihno is WW and then bambori's result could be somebody else, let's say luti if he is supposed if he is on that team.

there is a small chance that they are all ww and bambori and nave did it to eliminate rihno, coz only 1 result cant convince majority.


it's kind of hard to believe any of sides but hmmm i am still going for rihno.

bolding the name in case you forgot yo yo - Simoneon

[MangaD]

Dang. I can't be away for 1 day without having to read a frigging 10 pages?

Scratch that, tl;dr.

If I correctly understand the situation right now:

• mfc is bard
  
• A-man is occultist
  
• Neeragon is knight
  
• LutiChris is knight
  
• Rhino.Freak is knight
  
• Bamboori is scout
  
• TheNave is inquisitor
  
• MangaD is unknown
  
• Simoneon is unknown
  
• empirefantasy is unknown
  
• Tornado is unknown
  

So, we know the roles of more than half the players. Dunno if this is good or bad.

Possible scenarios:

Scene 1:

Bamboori (scout) is ww. He revealed the inquisitor without consulting the town, plus suggested his lynch (distraction?). Then revealed a knight, again without consulting the town. He could just have said "I found a knight, should I expose him?".
On night 1, he finds Rhino to be a knight. But if he and TheNave are really on same team, who did he really check on night 0? Neeragon maybe?

TheNave (inquisitor) is ww. He got exposed early (attempt to drag out the town inquisitor? or maybe take control over the game should the town inquisitor decide to remain silent?). However, he was not targeted for the kill nor blocked. Plus, he did not reveal his checkings (did he?). Who did he check on Night 0? I read about him checking Rhino, but he only said it because A-Man asked. Is it bad for the town if he reveals who he checked before?
And seriously, too much of a coincidence both Bamboori and TheNave check the same person, with the later only revealing so to reinforce the idea of lynching Rhino?

Luti (knight) is ww. Seriously, why reveal your role? If you know the ww's are after the inquisitor, it is only natural they would kill anyone protecting the inquisitor first. So you just made TheNave's demise more imminient... unless of course, TheNave is ww. Your arguments of getting the spotlight blablablu hardly convinced me. Sounds like bs to me.

This team wants to get rid of the last town knight during the day, then kill someone during the night. If successful, they will have only 3 townies left to deal with, who are likely to be 2-3 bards and 1-2 scouts. However, the bards can only place secret votes during the night, so they cannot decide on one common target in order to win.

People, in the eventuality of this scenario being possible, the bards should decide on one common target! If I am a bard, I will go with Luti next day. Because role blocking seems to be the most dangerous ability from the above, given the situation. Plus, nothing guarantees 100% that Rhino is ww and Luti is not, so lynching Luti will guarantee for certain that we got a ww.


Scene 2:

Bamboori (scout) is townie. He is inexperienced and made a mistake at revealing TheNave. Then he finds some good info and reveals it, again not thinking too much and just decided to trust Luti over Rhino.

TheNave (inquisitor) is townie. He got unlucky with Bamboori's mistake, but then got lucky because he was not role blocked and on top of this he found a werewolf! Coinciding with Bamboori's checking. Easy game.

Luti (knight) is townie. He got sentimentalist when his fellow knight got killed and decided to reveal his role and pay his tribute. Plus, now that only he and the ww knight were left, and because he wouldn't be of much use to the town (accordingly to him), revealing himself would hopefully make us trust him and help find out the other knight.

In this case, Rhino.Freak and A-man are most probably werewolves, leaving only 1 more to go!


Scene 3 (just for fun):

TheNave, Bamboori, Luti, A-man, Rhino.Freak are all townies, and the ww's are delighted with the show you guys are putting!

Unlikely.


Obviously, those scenes are inaccurate. All combinations are possible. I just depicted those based on the sides that people are taking. But it is possible that there are townies defending ww side, or ww's defending the town side.

Anyway, looks like Rhino.Freak is going down. To me is irrelevant as I don't have any solid info on Rhino nor Luti. But for this reason I choose to assume scene 1 is in course, and unless some new info arrives, I shall vote Luti next day. This will assure (me) that at least 1 ww is down.

And with this you probably know my role by now...

[Neeragon]

I thought TheNave and Bambori etc were in an elite hunting group or something, so they must have atleast discussed whom to check? Right, so why would both of them check Rhino, its like wasting 1 role power,

[MangaD]

Actually I decide to end this game right here right now.

Sorry everyone.

Werewolves are:

• Rhino.Freak (knight)
  
• T.O.R.N.A.D.O (scout)
  
• MangaD (bard)
  

Why you may ask? Because this game has a major flaw and TheNave is exploiting it with no constraints. The way this is going, ww's have 0% chance of victory.

He finds townies without needing to check them at the night, so this is over.

The flaw:

1. Starts a chat with the player he wants to check;
2. Asks them to screenshot Ramond's pm real quick, with the PC time shown in the taskbar (to avoid previously preparing the screenshot of course)

I suspected he was doing this as soon as I saw his comment asking Tornado to go on Skype. Today I talked with Tornado and found this to be the case. Of course Tornado faked the screenshot, which took him about 6 minutes, and excused the time he took with checking the game's rules to see if that was allowed. But I am positive that TheNave did this with other players who gave him the screenshot very fast, confirming them to be townies.

I am disappointed at the TheNave and his accomplices, who tried to win the game with major cheating and not reporting anything to Ramond.

Was fun game.

[A-Man]

Damn, I'm really bad at this game, getting all my suspects wrong O_O. Though I kind of feel it's because the town's super squad had illegitimately gained information, and in a way I didn't expect, which made me perceive their actions as extraordinarily so-sure and/or blind.

Because this game has a major flaw and TheNave is exploiting it with no constraints. The way this is going, ww's have 0% chance of victory.

I wouldn't really say it's because of a 'flaw' of the game though. The messages we get from Ramond at the beginning should not be used a second time after being read the first time by the player. They should be taken as "memories" or "facts" the player has about himself; it's just a rule of common sense, really.


However, if it was extended only to a screenshot, it would be so easy to fool by editing the content of the PM using the browser's inspector, which I believe is what TORNADO did. The axiom is that PMs from Ramond shouldn't be used directly as proof or evidence.

Anyway, :\

[TheNave]

actually, the test tornado took wasn't important anyways... we already checked him at night and got the werwolf result I was just kinda trolling when checking him

but yes, this game was way to lucky for town side...
first night me and the second town inquisitor crosschecked eachother and got into contact, the chances of that are very low already... then after forming a two-man team the second night we both got a werwolf result aka Tornado and Rhino, really lucky aswell... Bamboori wasn't even part of the squad at that point, he was just independently checking the same people I had...

we thought the third mafia to either be you MangaD or A-Man... and we would have checked those two roles this night to make sure... so in the end, yes, it was impossible for you to win, especially now that you revealed there isn't even a single ww inquisitor...

I take your post as a surrender vote...

GG, wp everyone

Oh and for future games, the GM should send PMs with the corresponding town roles to the mafia/werwolfes aswell, so they can easly take a screenshot of those when asked for it...
but whatever, what did you expect, private talk, ghost talk and screenshot faking allowed? ofc it'd come down to this

[A-Man]

but whatever, what did you expect, private talk, ghost talk and screenshot faking allowed? ofc it'd come down to this

I certainly didn't expect people to play this cheap.

[TheNave]

how is it cheap? I'd have allowed the people that got into the squad without those screenshots aswell...

I'm not gonna say any names but SOMEONE was reaaally paranoid and insisted on double-tripple-quadra checking everyone I added to the squad D