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Simoneon · 06-09-2012, 07:49 PM

Hey all!

I want to discus and find ways to enable having cooldowns on skills. Example - DvA can only be used in 10 seconds after previous use, while DJA - 20 seconds.

My theory: every skill would have additional frames at the beggining ("starter") and at the end ("finisher"). The "finisher" frame would spawn a t0 "timer" which follows the char via kind8. The "starter" then checks if "timer" is alive, and if it is, then char goes to standing frames.
I don't like this as much as I hate itr/k8. But I'm too stupid to think of any other method. Any ideas?

Infern112 · 06-09-2012, 08:06 PM

Cooldowns from my mod looks like this:

Hero:

DC-Code:

<frame> 331 tornado
   pic: 56  state: 15  wait: 2  next: 332  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 32  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0 mp: 135
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 25  y: 33  w: 29  h: 45
   bdy_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 18  y: -664566  w: 120 h: 40
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>
<frame> 332 tornado
   pic: 57  state: 15  wait: 2  next: 333  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 32  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 25  y: 33  w: 29  h: 45
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>
 
<frame> 333 tornado
   pic: 58  state: 15  wait: 2  next: 334  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 32  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 25  y: 33  w: 29  h: 45
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>
 
<frame> 334 tornado
   pic: 59  state: 15  wait: 2  next: 335  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 32  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 25  y: 33  w: 29  h: 45
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>
 
<frame> 335 tornado
   pic: 60  state: 15  wait: 2  next: 336  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 32  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
opoint:
      kind: 1  x: 65  y: 80  action: 150  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  oid: 211  facing: 30
   opoint_end:
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 25  y: 33  w: 29  h: 45
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>
<frame> 336 tornado
   pic: 61  state: 15  wait: 2  next: 337 dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 32  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 25  y: 33  w: 29  h: 45
   bdy_end:
opoint:
      kind: 1  x: 65  y: 80  action: 174  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  oid: 211  facing: 0
   opoint_end:
<frame_end>
 
<frame> 337 tornado
   pic: 62  state: 15  wait: 2  next: 338  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 32  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 25  y: 33  w: 29  h: 45
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>
 
<frame> 338 tornado
   pic: 63  state: 15  wait: 2  next: 999  dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 32  centery: 79  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
   bdy:
      kind: 0  x: 25  y: 33  w: 29  h: 45
   bdy_end:
<frame_end>

Spell (ID:211):

DC-Code:

<frame> 174 tornado_cd
   pic: 999  state: 18  wait: 65  next: 1000 dvx: 0  dvy: 0  centerx: 72  centery: 74  hit_a: 0  hit_d: 0  hit_j: 0
      itr:
      kind: 0  x: -1000  y: -664566 w: 9999 zwidth: 999 h: 100 dvx: 1 dvy: 1 fall: 10 arest: 7 bdefend: 70 injury: 25  effect: 0
itr_end:  
<frame_end>

It works perfectly, instand of fall 10 its possible to put -1 or smthing like this : P

Simoneon · (This post was last modified: 06-09-2012, 08:13 PM by Simoneon.)

Infern, so every time he tries to launch a skill he gets hit? That sounds neat! Although not perfect, because if you have same two heros, the cooldowns get messed up.
I want to avoid that - that's why I didn't want to use ik8 in the first place.

Infern112 · (This post was last modified: 06-09-2012, 08:55 PM by Infern112.)

What about some kind of anty cd?
I mean state 3000 cd which after being hit going to frame with other itr.
Really dont know how to explain this, and I am not even sure If I am thinking correctly about this xD

@edit
Ok, I tried to draw it: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/cdcd.png/ (dont laugh)

Silverthorn · 06-09-2012, 09:22 PM

If you want to combine this with a little graphical effect, you could take a shot at the pet-technique, it features an object swirling around the summoner, no matter what. You can then combine it with Infern's method (I don't know, it's so simple that it's awesome again

).

If you don't want to use itr/k8 or k0, you can also resort to the grab-itr (1 or 3, I always forget that). Basically, when the char executes the move while still being inside the time-limit, you get grabbed and brought to a frame which will display an animation à la "I can't do this, I'm tired", etc.

On a second thought, the pet-thing grabbing you might not be the best idea, considering that it constantly moves around...

Simoneon · 06-10-2012, 06:40 AM

Thanks everyone! I'm going to try that method with grab, and lastly if nothing works - itrk8.
Btw, maybe anything with weapons? But afaik you can't hold more than one weapon...

Alblaka · 06-10-2012, 07:11 AM

(06-09-2012, 08:11 PM)Simoneon Wrote: Infern, so every time he tries to launch a skill he gets hit? That sounds neat! Although not perfect, because if you have same two heros, the cooldowns get messed up.
I want to avoid that - that's why I didn't want to use ik8 in the first place.

Even with ik8 it's not sure it will stick with char A if char B enters the itr radius of the T0 object.

Simoneon edited this post 06-10-2012 07:15 AM because:

Ofc, that's why I hate it

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