Out of interest...

[Marshall]

Has LF2 become a game engine to you?

[STM1993]

Well, from what I see, LF2's turning from a fighting game, to a moddable game, and now with such advanced levels of DC and HEX editting, it's now looking like it's gonna become a game engine. Who knows how much LF2 will change until it looks so different from the original.

[Silverthorn]

I guess that was what Marti tried to avoid by not releasing the source code: transferring the game into a study example of changing, modding, srewing, and deleting. On one hand, yes, it is a good fighting game, but since it is rather simple built, people can easily understand the code (at least of the characters, hex is, more or less, a myth for a lot of people). And, quite frankly, how did you feel when you finished a small project relating to LF2. I guess like something that you want to repeat again. That is that kind of motivation that keeps great parts of the community alive. Why else is the projects and releases forum one of the biggest around here (not counting the forum games)? Compare it to.... let's say the Hex-Forum. Either, Silva talks to himself by posting a new thread with a new exe-change, or somebody asks him if xyz is possible. Any mod stays basically the same core-wise, it depends what people do with the rest. However, more and more people aquire more and more knowledge and thus become more interested in messing around with LF2. The interest in LF2 shifts, from a pure fighting game to not more than a game engine, like Marshall already said. But this is almost unavoidable, since LF2's complexity-level is rather low, such that people want to become socalled "experts" by messing around with the program. But, like I said, for its complexity it has been alive for a rather long time, and it still can fascinate people. Compare that to any other game, written in the same year. But, yea, my final conclusion is that the LF2 community has shifted from a fanclub to a manipulating society.

wow, got longer than I expected

[Marshall]

Manipulating sounds a bit too strong to me :P

But yeah... I was just wondering if you play LF2 for the enjoyment of being good at in-game fighting/doing hard to do combos or just for the pure pleasure of modding...

[Silverthorn]

great, so I basically typed up a whole paragraph about nothing. Great

Anyways, most of the time, I just start up LF2 to test out some new features, not really for fighting pleasure...

[STM1993]

I believe that some people are also quite bored of the default characters, combos. So they decided: Hey, why not make my own characters instead? They'll have everything I want!

Which is probably a reason for overpowered characters.

To be honest, I'd rather see LF2 as a moddable game because that's what is keeping it alive. It gives me an interest to continue playing other than the fact that, being a not-so-good player, would like to try the other default characters and also keeping playing stage mode.

[Azriel]

I'd like a proper "forum mod" to be done, in which everyone knows everyone. the officials' is the one i've seen with the furthest progress, but it failed due to heaps of motivation loss and/or time issues.

which means I see it partially as a game engine (mod stuff), but more of a game for now (coz i haven't done any dc for ages + anything I do with lf2 lately is fighting online.



Azriel~

[Lauli]

Definitely, I still play LF2, because of the fact that it is the only (good) mod-able game I know. Editors of any strategy games don't provide as much possabilities than LF2.

I mod like 75%
and play like 25%, when not less.