[C] Walker - 2.08

[STM1993]

By the way, the reason I made the new throw on two commands was because I couldn't get D↑J to work after D↑A for some reason.

I think YinYin mentioned this previously in this thread. If you use any D (direction) A move, pressing J will cause you to do D (direction) J as soon as your character is allowed to do so. Its an engine-related issue, though not always a bad thing.

Though, I have one question is it really a good thing to send your opponent to the ground more quickly? I mean the sooner they hit ground, the sooner they will rise and get invulnerability, giving you less time to reposition yourself.

Sending someone down fast enough is to guarantee that the enemy cannot flip out at the end of a combo, kind of like Davis' D^JA. Think of it as a safe option.

If its not fast enough and the enemy can flip, but you land earlier than him, you can punch him. Its like Davis using D^A and you flip out of it - he can immediately punch you again.

Would you like to keep the Jack Kick from normal catch, or see that scrapped as well?

I think its better to take it out. I found a nasty infinite with it because you can catch the opponent again in mid-air and opponents cannot flip if they are thrown like that for some reason.
(AAA, grab, D^J, (wait until Walker lands), >J+DvA, (wait until Walker lands), >J+DvA...)

Other things I found about the move:
* You can chain with D^A(uppercut), but the opponent will be too far away to use anything other than A after that.

If you like an attack that lands more quickly... how about a move that creates an illusion of him still being in the air, while he lands and punches forward? It could be JD→A, and D→A could once again create a jumping illusion of him while he does the same attack?

The mid-air immediate landing one is nice. The 2nd version(create a jumping illusion) wouldn't be useful.

Would you like to see this as a seperate D↑J move instead of how it works now?
Should you be able to change the distance by different inputs?
Would you like him to automatically attack?

Yes, separate move. A player should commit to one of the counters.
Probably not necessary to change distance. Its elegant and simple as it is.
No, no auto-attack. Let the player decide what he wants to do.

So for the next experimental patch how does this sound:
- JD↓A a strong kick that slams opponent into the ground quickly
- JD↓J a quick throw that throws opponent downward
- Mirage Cancel is made into its own move D↑J. Just D↑J moves him same distance as now, A further forward (or is it a bad idea to have something at A?), D backwards and J costs some MP but actually uses that teleport-state to appear behind opponent?

Some other random thoughts:
- Should his run D be similar to Julian's?
- Should Phantom Dash go to standard catch instead of Louis' throw, like how it works for Drew in HF or would that be too strong?

JDvA will be great.
JDvJ I'm unsure how well it'd work till I see it.
Multiple distances and teleport state for mirage cancel is not necessary, but if you insist, I'll try it out in both duels and stage mode.

If you do make his run D like Julian's, would appreciate if it functions just like a normal roll except with an illusion, but I like normal roll as it is.
If D>J goes to standard catch it would be way overpowered.