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Took a slightly longer glance at some pages back, and now I'll quickly spill my thoughts, hopefully in a reasonably well-constructed manner.
In some depth:
Hellasdasfwhateverguy. All he's done is come online to post "AMADIS, TRUST MEH KNO SUMT SPESHL!", which DID indicate him being the cop he WAS NOT in any way. His biggest sin isn't not helping, since that can happen to anyone. No, he actively confused the citizens with a random accusation hidden in a fake clue, and didn't bother to elaborate, though he evidently has been online. Even a short explanation would have made him that much less suspicious.
Really, the thing went post->debate,accusations->no response->no-kill. I bet the mafia chat went along the lines of "Godddamn it Hellazer! Now lay down, we'll try to fix this sh*t!" "YES! we got a no-kill!"
Amadis dying would have put pressure on Helblazer, which, while not necessarily a game-killer, would have been a setback for the mafia. That is a mistake I made (not voicing an opinion against no-kill) though in my defense I've been extremely tired and going for the past week, e.g. I spent my weekend on a camping trip. All in all, I think Hellblazer is the most suspicious one here, and I want him to say something, even if it isn't lengthy.
TL;DR: He's acting so suspect it's almost surreal. If he isn't mafia, he's acting extremely stupid, and either way isn't a big loss.
What was the reasoning behind Amadis' statistics? He focused on pointing out the cop and the doc, succeeding in the former. The percentages seem random, considering the only absolute numbers we'll be getting is from the host. Even a newbie can figure out that exposing the cop to the mafia is BAD.
However, I don't think the mafia actually acted on the statistic he posted. Instead, I think it's a possibility that someone from mafia figured Apoc out, Amadis (in this scenario, a mafioso) posted the statistics to lure an action from him, and they got him somehow. Amadis has the newbie-card, which a veteran player could abuse, like in this case his explanation is "wanting doc to save cop".
Acting as a cop isn't a thing, because if it doesn't get called out on the spot, it succeeds only if the real cop is inactive. Killing mafia has so much more impact on the game than killing a cop, since a dead mafia is a gold-mine for clues, while killing the cop only hinders some citizen-strategies, i.e. posing as the cop isn't a good idea in 9/10 cases. It's funny Hellball decided to do that, since it's such an awfully bad idea this early in the game. I don't know what could have been the cue the mafia would have been expecting (I didn't go FAR far back), but anyway, let's pretend I paid some attention. It COULD be that Amadis just didn't consider that, but even then, the end goal for the citizens is exposing->killing the mafia, NOT our win-cards.
Simon said "mafia is smart". Who ever says that? Not the innocent, that's for sure ":----D" Not serious, in case any of you is an idiot.
I'll post more about my views on the rest of you guys on a later date, but there's a f***** of material to chew through. I simply won't do that now. If there is something you absolutely want me to express my opinion on, asking it would help me a great deal. This isn't sound logic, but as I said, there's too much discussion to quickly make anything remotely logical from.
I also want Hellblazr to say something, anything to elaborate. It's a challenge and threat in the same package.
Hellblazer, be my vote for now
In some depth:
Hellasdasfwhateverguy. All he's done is come online to post "AMADIS, TRUST MEH KNO SUMT SPESHL!", which DID indicate him being the cop he WAS NOT in any way. His biggest sin isn't not helping, since that can happen to anyone. No, he actively confused the citizens with a random accusation hidden in a fake clue, and didn't bother to elaborate, though he evidently has been online. Even a short explanation would have made him that much less suspicious.
Really, the thing went post->debate,accusations->no response->no-kill. I bet the mafia chat went along the lines of "Godddamn it Hellazer! Now lay down, we'll try to fix this sh*t!" "YES! we got a no-kill!"
Amadis dying would have put pressure on Helblazer, which, while not necessarily a game-killer, would have been a setback for the mafia. That is a mistake I made (not voicing an opinion against no-kill) though in my defense I've been extremely tired and going for the past week, e.g. I spent my weekend on a camping trip. All in all, I think Hellblazer is the most suspicious one here, and I want him to say something, even if it isn't lengthy.
TL;DR: He's acting so suspect it's almost surreal. If he isn't mafia, he's acting extremely stupid, and either way isn't a big loss.
What was the reasoning behind Amadis' statistics? He focused on pointing out the cop and the doc, succeeding in the former. The percentages seem random, considering the only absolute numbers we'll be getting is from the host. Even a newbie can figure out that exposing the cop to the mafia is BAD.
However, I don't think the mafia actually acted on the statistic he posted. Instead, I think it's a possibility that someone from mafia figured Apoc out, Amadis (in this scenario, a mafioso) posted the statistics to lure an action from him, and they got him somehow. Amadis has the newbie-card, which a veteran player could abuse, like in this case his explanation is "wanting doc to save cop".
Acting as a cop isn't a thing, because if it doesn't get called out on the spot, it succeeds only if the real cop is inactive. Killing mafia has so much more impact on the game than killing a cop, since a dead mafia is a gold-mine for clues, while killing the cop only hinders some citizen-strategies, i.e. posing as the cop isn't a good idea in 9/10 cases. It's funny Hellball decided to do that, since it's such an awfully bad idea this early in the game. I don't know what could have been the cue the mafia would have been expecting (I didn't go FAR far back), but anyway, let's pretend I paid some attention. It COULD be that Amadis just didn't consider that, but even then, the end goal for the citizens is exposing->killing the mafia, NOT our win-cards.
Simon said "mafia is smart". Who ever says that? Not the innocent, that's for sure ":----D" Not serious, in case any of you is an idiot.
I'll post more about my views on the rest of you guys on a later date, but there's a f***** of material to chew through. I simply won't do that now. If there is something you absolutely want me to express my opinion on, asking it would help me a great deal. This isn't sound logic, but as I said, there's too much discussion to quickly make anything remotely logical from.
I also want Hellblazr to say something, anything to elaborate. It's a challenge and threat in the same package.
Hellblazer, be my vote for now