RaMafia (round 1 - end)

[LutiChris]

@empirefantasy
On a more serious note, the conversation i had with Rhino doesn't really do my argument against him any justice. While both of us are suspicious the way he handled the situation (the collective lynch mob mentality) does not seem to be mafia-like in my eyes. After re-reading what Apoc had said it would be silly for him to even go on irc to talk with me and simply leave (it wouldn't be very smart of him to apprehend me like that). On top of that i fear he might actually be innocent and that would make me the next victim of another lynch mob. I don't necessarily agree with MangaD on his accusations about Rhino, mine was more of a petty haha-gotcha moment than anything else. I am convinced his pm to me was a joke and didn't realize the serious implications it had on his un-doing and because of the harsh push back he received i'm sure he deeply regretted doing that. So i have reasons to drop my silly accusations against him. I told Stm about this my involvements and he still wants to go ahead and lynch the poor guy. he strikes me as a townie but im very suspicious of both him and mangaD.

I know some of you guys are already annoyed that i would jump back and forth between votes but bare with me. Lets go through MangaD's list shall we?

mfc claimed that if he died Rhino would be mafia - mfc died;

later on in a skype conversation i had with mfc and a few others, mfc told me he no longer suspected Rhino of being mafia. This was after I had posted my accusations about him regarding the "haha you're going to die" pm.

Rhino told me that he suspected Hellblazer to be sheriff, without any proof of me being doc, just my word. Moreover, he knew that Hellblazer was not the sheriff, possible reason to why he's still alive I presume;

Rhino wasn't sure hellblazer was the sheriff. He thought this was useful information in case hellblazer turned out to be mafia. In fact since this is probably going to make our side lose i might as well just state that Hellblazer is indeed the sheriff and if the doctor doesn't save him from getting killed by mafia we are going to lose.

Rhino just told everyone that I told him I am the doc. Would he have done that if he were a citizen? Giving away that important information to the mafia without my consent?

That's a liability all of us must face even if both of us are teammates. we can't be trusted some of us rely on the rest of the group for answers. It might be cumbersome to have your identity to be revealed, you didn't say you were indeed the doctor. This would have made sense in the start of the game but we are almost half way done so i'm inclined to believe that you are definitely not the doctor and that you certainly lied to rhino about it. If i was in your shoes, I would have stated i was the doctor if indeed my teammate had already stated that i was (this late in the game). Having your teammate take the fall and putting more suspicion on him is not very wise.

Whatever discussion you had with him on IRC. I didn't really get it, but I guess something to further accuse him with.

To me that doesn't seem like a well thought out justified reason just because I accused him. To me this tells me i'd rather just go with the flow instead of telling us your take from it. All the other's have stated their reasons about the irc content.

Though it is clear that Hellblazer is not sheriff and Rhino knows this, because Hellblazer told Rhino that he was checked and was innocent, which seems to be a lie now.

If Rhino were a citizen, would he leak this information about Hellblazer being sheriff? Same about me being a doc, would he reveal that, regardless of what he thinks it to be true or not? ;]

If Rhino is innocent he would desperately spill any beans he had to save himself. And so far i have failed to see this in his behavior toward our mountain of accusations placed on top of him. He looks like he had accepted defeat, what else would he have to hide he would obviously reveal whatever information that he had but all he said was that he was going to die and we would see that he was really a townie. This is what i fear. We can't lose another townie and on top of that hellblazer's identity has been revealed and he will probably be the next target for the mafia. either this night or the next one.

I strongly urge the sheriff to reveal himself so the doctor can save him.

voting to lynch MangaD