01-31-2016, 10:44 PM
(01-31-2016, 06:02 PM)Marko Wrote: Lol!!!, are you actually comparing things that involves harming other people around you with thing which is totally self-dependent ?????You completely ignored that many people consider aborting a fetus to be harmful against the fetus which will grow up to be a person.
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It's not like "thieving, rape, murder or pretty much any other crime". Crime, necessary, involves harming other people and harmony of place while abortion is personal choice the same way you can choose to or not to believe in God therefore you can't call it "pretty much crime".
If you don't agree with someones beliefs, simply don't socialite with them.
If you are for abortion, but against murdering you have to draw a line, for where it is ok to kill it/him/her. Many people would probably draw the line at birth, but it is as arbitrary as any other place to draw the line. It happens to coincide with another major event, but there is no indication that they have anything to do with each other.
(01-31-2016, 06:02 PM)Marko Wrote: The fact she doesn't want baby (or can't support) doesn't make her pretty much murderer. You can be disgusted by such people, but they did nothing morally wrong here. To make something crime it should be morally relevant.Well for you list:
Something is morally relevant if:
1. refers to being which has moral status of the facility
2. done on purpose
3. personal choice
4. done with knowledge about it
5. procedure has moral quality (good or bad)
- It doesn't refer to any living thing and it has no moral quality (Bible and other religous stuffs doesn't apply here because there are plenty of atheists as well)
Therefore abortion is morally irrelevant, meaning is not crime, meaning there is no reasonable argument against abortion.
- Debatable.
- Definitely.
- Definitely.
- Definitely.
- Do I smell circular logic? Anyway still debatable.
(01-31-2016, 06:02 PM)Marko Wrote: it's simple, very simple. You are complicating everything involving moral which doesn't apply here..... As everything, it should be regulated under the law that's why court is necessary. Under valid arguments, which i suppose are listed plenty of times in this thread, she should be allowed to abort a fetus/embryo.If you think something is simple, you probably did not understand it very well.
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volatile in C++ does not mean thread-safe.
Do not make APIs unnecessarily asynchronous.
Make C++ operator > again
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