RaMafia 2

[A-Man]

I do understand it a bit. But even after all inquisitors are gone, we'll have 2 werewolves left and no ways of even remotely figuring out them. So... Yeah it fails in the long run benefitting only the wolfies.

Oh, we know one other one is a Knight! If only one remains, it's pretty much over for the werewolves, as we can just keep lynching and get the last one. Put in mind that as only one remains, the game can continue until the ratio is as slow as 1:1 (which is plenty of turns), and that the chances keep increasing gradually every turn.

@A-Man
that doesn't make the inquisitor useless, he can still gather information and reveal it at the end, and if there is a second town sided inquisitor he can do that aswell, and finally by crossing both lists you can figure out who's werwolf and who isn't... but revealing them early on the other hand, puts them in danger and will lead to mafia knights blocking their abilities

But you can't really make anything of what the inquisitor says. His information have no value, as they may be of that of a werewolves-aligned, and we can't ever figure someone's alignment for certain until the game is over. Your other argument is based on the chance we have 2 inquisitors on our side which is not only less likely, but can only be figured out when they're killed and their roles are revealed (which it seems you're not willing to take a risk of doing). It's very likely Bamboori will be attacked the coming night, and it'd be too wishy for you to say you're counting on 2 scouts too.

@mfc:
Well, I have few questions about some of your answers to previous questions like what you exactly mean by "enough evidence" and stuff, but what's important begins at #3.

3-When will you ever confirm X is town or werewolf?

---When multiple information sources correlate and lies become exposed.

I'd always question the reliability of your sources and the correctness of your conclusions with all the margin of error there is with that method. The only time I will be ever able to confirm X is what is when the game ends.

4-Suppose werewolves killed someone at night, and it turned out that person is an inquisitor, what does this suggest about that inquisitor's alignment?

---We cannot know, but his words and list are worthy of inspection for finding the truth.

You can not know for certain, but it's more likely that the werewolves attacked an inquisitor who's not in their alignment, right?

5-What would you do if a scout comes afterwards and reports he's found another inquisitor?

---Well, that scout didn't do a good thing then, he should have kept it for himself. He threatened the life of a potential townie inquisitor.

No, he's totally a smart one. This inquisitor is likely the remaining werewolf-aligned inquisitor! (or in case there are more than 2 town-aligned ones, they have a higher chance to be one)

6-Given all this, should werewolves really care, or even want, to kill an inquisitor?

---Yes, because they are the biggest threat for WW. because Alignment is not revealed upon death.

No, a dead townie-aligned inquisitor is the biggest threat to their own werewolf-aligned one. Be critical!

Woah! Hold your horses A-man. Inquisitor (Town) is the most important role in my opinion. That's the only way you can identify a Werewolf. What you are suggesting is going to get all the Inquisitors getting massacred. If all of them die, hour do you propose that we know that the alignment of a person is Werewolf or not with concrete proof?

You can just say that's your opinion, but the inquisitor is in fact not. It's not the only way to figure out a werewolf, because there ISN't a way to do this. If all of them die, a werewolf is dead, and it's the least you can lose and most you can gain!

Hmm now that I think about it, an inquisitor's word doesn't matter. I can claim to be one and say Simon is werewolf. But it doesn't prove anything. Even if after I die, my word is meaningless since you cannot determine whether I was a werewolf aligned inquisitor or townie aligned. Inquisitor would be beneficial if his role alignment was revealed after death. But I still don't buy the idea of killing them all first.
It doesn't achieve anything, and will at the end only allow 1 werewolf kill and several townie kill.

Yup, you got it. Only thing in your post is that you can't claim to be an inquisitor if you're not one (werewolf or town aligned) because your role will be revealed once you're dead.

and if you're on the bottom half of the list:
5. empirefantasy
7. A-Man
9. Simoneon
10. Rhino.Freak
11. Bamboori
please protect me on all Nights with even numbers, like Night 2, 4, 6 etc

They should protect Bamboori imo.

I have to say that A-Mans logic seems flawed to me.
And sorry for revealing roles so soon, I was not thinking about private talk.
But. How should I know who to trust/pm without any knowledge?

How is my logic flawed?
Don't trust anyone in particular. If you're to share information, do it here in public. If you've followed with my posts, then you should know that revealing another inquisitor would do us good. If you've checked a Knight, then only inform us only when you know 2 or more are knights. Anything else you can choose to share or not just that we don't know if you've successfully checked the first knight.