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(08-07-2020, 04:12 PM)sssks6070 Wrote:  Can anyone explain how these JA moves actually work ..

You press both of them together but when I looked in data , I found the staring frame of the move was having frame number 210 ...

In walking and standing hit_j goes to something other than 210 (like hit_j:209)

:p
That's exactly it. See here.

LF2 has two input detection systems.
One is the default input from state 0/1, the other one is hit_whatever.

When you simply press J, hit_j takes priority.
However, if press J+A together, the game gets "confused" and just uses the default input and goes to frame 210.

Same logic applies for D+A / D+J, but it goes to frame 110, which is not recommended because frame 110 has some important properties.

There are a couple of flaws with this system however.
* The default input detection has a longer buffer detection window than the hit_whatever's window. Which means it is actually possible to press J and get JA instead if you press it at a specific timing early.
* hit_whatever doesn't work if you run out of mana, which means you suddenly can't jump. Which also means this method is actually not recommended for characters who have -mp moves like Dennis(D>J) or Firen(D>J/DvJ).
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Messages In This Thread
LF2 Extra - by Hari - 10-14-2017, 09:50 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Hari - 10-15-2017, 10:34 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Lauli - 10-15-2017, 03:51 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Hari - 10-15-2017, 07:17 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Hari - 10-29-2017, 12:02 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Hari - 10-31-2017, 08:02 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Lauli - 11-01-2017, 12:18 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by You'rHighness - 10-31-2017, 10:22 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Hari - 11-02-2017, 08:01 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by shin hanazumi - 11-02-2017, 05:00 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 07-25-2020, 02:29 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 08-06-2020, 04:24 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by STM1993 - 08-06-2020, 04:35 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 08-06-2020, 05:42 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by darkfiren - 08-07-2020, 04:12 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by STM1993 - 08-07-2020, 04:25 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 08-19-2020, 12:11 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by darkfiren - 08-19-2020, 01:32 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 08-22-2020, 01:33 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by STM1993 - 08-22-2020, 03:45 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 09-02-2020, 12:55 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by AZxBlue - 09-03-2020, 09:24 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Ghanu - 09-05-2020, 05:14 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 09-17-2020, 02:34 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by STM1993 - 09-17-2020, 02:48 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 09-18-2020, 12:57 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 01-08-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by darkfiren - 01-14-2021, 03:46 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 01-15-2021, 02:20 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 01-18-2021, 01:33 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 01-28-2021, 12:58 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by darkfiren - 01-28-2021, 05:06 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 01-29-2021, 10:15 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 02-11-2021, 12:02 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 02-24-2021, 05:27 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Memento - 03-08-2021, 02:15 PM
RE: LF2 Extra - by The_Hari - 03-15-2021, 12:43 AM
RE: LF2 Extra - by Sorcerer - 05-28-2021, 11:01 AM



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