Random.. Driving me nuts.

[Silverthorn]

Quantum Physics. Anything that happens there is based on statistics. When a Plutonium-atom decays, an H2O-molecule switches states in a radiation field, or what trajectory an electron describes (if you can actually call it like that). Unpredictable. Related: Schrödinger's cat.

The path that water-molecules describe coming out of the tap and getting down the sink is highly complex. So is the weather. You can only predict the weather with a 100%-accuracy if you can describe every part that might affect it. That means: know the data to each air molecule in the world (ie. where it is is, its velocity, etc), fluctuations in the solar energy reaching us, and the movement any being on this planet does. And even if you knew them all, quantums hinder you.

One might get taught that an electron moves in a circle around the nucleus according to Bohr. Well, that's crap. You are not able to determine the position of an electron at any point in time because if you do, then you don't know anything about its energy.

Either way, to me, randomness is that it's axiomatically impossible to predict it. If you can improve your methods to gather data used to predict the future, then it's not random because it follows a pattern. If you study somebody for long enough, you'll notice certain habits. For example, some people append something to their posts which seems random at first but later becomes something expectable. Gangnam Style.

[dixon]

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Games with huge dependance on random number generator are somehow very enjoyable, like *cough* doom2 which I've been wasting way too much free time on for the past almost 2 years *cough*.

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[A-Man]

Quantum Physics. Anything that happens there is based on statistics. When a Plutonium-atom decays, an H2O-molecule switches states in a radiation field, or what trajectory an electron describes (if you can actually call it like that). Unpredictable. Related: Schrödinger's cat.

The path that water-molecules describe coming out of the tap and getting down the sink is highly complex. So is the weather. You can only predict the weather with a 100%-accuracy if you can describe every part that might affect it. That means: know the data to each air molecule in the world (ie. where it is is, its velocity, etc), fluctuations in the solar energy reaching us, and the movement any being on this planet does. And even if you knew them all, quantums hinder you.

One might get taught that an electron moves in a circle around the nucleus according to Bohr. Well, that's crap. You are not able to determine the position of an electron at any point in time because if you do, then you don't know anything about its energy.

Either way, to me, randomness is that it's axiomatically impossible to predict it. If you can improve your methods to gather data used to predict the future, then it's not random because it follows a pattern. If you study somebody for long enough, you'll notice certain habits. For example, some people append something to their posts which seems random at first but later becomes something expectable. Gangnam Style.

I was really pissed wen the physics told us last year that this Bohr atom model we have been studying is all fake/wrong. Schrodinger model states that electrons keep bouncing on the nucleus forming a fizzy electric cloud or something like that. I don't know wat scrodinger;s cat is, but i will look it up later on the internet.

Uh yea sure, that train of thought could lead into religion if you wish.
And just to be a little picky, that supernatural being must not only know everything, but also be able to calculate it fast enough to actually be practical.
I mean, what's the sense of calculating the future, if you're not calculating faster than time passes.
"Hey guys, I calculated what happened an hour ago based on the facts of two hours ago" - "Yo, you're a little late." - "Oh no, that rustled my jimmies!"

I totally agree with everything your wrote there.

[empirefantasy]

I mean, what's the sense of calculating the future, if you're not calculating faster than time passes.
"Hey guys, I calculated what happened an hour ago based on the facts of two hours ago" - "Yo, you're a little late." - "Oh no, that rustled my jimmies!"

It is still useful. maybe you will not be there to learn what happened after 1 hour. so if you calculate the information after 2 hours for 1 hour ago it may be still useful. because when you come back you know what happened without asking anybody.

I have been reading a book these days about quantum physic and the ether theory. it says that we take waves from everything, example from stars. these waves affect in out organism and lead us to take certain decisions. predicting human/animal activities would consist in studying DNA and all waves that come in our body.

But all of these things that can be predicted cost to much time , technology, energy, so it's is useless to do a prediciton of theses levels.