Classic Mafia - Conclusion!

[Simoneon]

No explanation whatsoever?

[TheNave]

Not yet

[A-Man]

What a useless selfish doctor :P

[empirefantasy]

first i have to say that game is processing very fast. When i saw Day Round i thought we were still on day 2

but yea, disappointing rihno was not protected (((

@Apocalipsis
i didnt said i will lynch next nave, i said he will be on the top of suspicious list. also voting for no kill is just a matter of choice and situation, I think we could not have any profit that much form no kill. anyways we didnt that much by the kill we had.

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also a thought on darl: for me he is 95% town sided coz if he were godfather he would not put doubts on cop, but would rather defend him as they are in the same side. but who knows it may be a strategy.

[TheNave]

No hate on the doctor, he was probably scared and didn't expect mafia to go for rhino...

still a bummer, not only did we waste a day round by lynching amadis which revealed close to no information whatsoever, but we also lost the cop without a final result for his check this night


that means we lost an entire day-night cycle without gaining any informations whatsoever to narrow down possible mafias...

on top of that, I'll probably get lynched this day as people don't belive me anymore for some strange reason, even though it wasn't me that tried to lynch Amadis, a player that wasn't even online Night 0 and thus 95% proven to be a citizen... If we loose I blame it on all the citizens that voted for Amadis! Sure, Luti might be a citizen aswell, still he had way more interaction with different players and thus revealing his role would have made a way bigger impact on the game, especially for me as I'm following quite a few theories here myself

well, whatever you do, even if you lynch me... this is my SAFELIST! Players on that list are extremly unlikely mafia:
- @empirefantasy
- @Jernemies

This is my, "could have tricked me but most likely innocent aswell"-list
- @Darl
- @Ramond
- @Bamboori

And here my, "most likely two out of those three are mafia"-list:
- @Apocalipsis
- @Simoneon
- @LutiChris


(An extremly unlikely but possible mafia combination could be Apoc + Jernemies aswell (yes yes I know I put jernemies on my safelist, this is an exception scenario) based on the little fact that CosmicSarasa said he only came to vote because Apoc notified him on day 1, the questions is: why was cosmic notified and jernemies wasn't? both mafia maybe? just a snippet of a theory I just found when reviewing all the previous posts)

[LutiChris]

Sure, Luti might be a citizen aswell, still he had way more interaction with different players and thus revealing his role would have made a way bigger impact on the game

That seems like some sloppy reasoning. So say a player said hi to everyone individually he therefore interacted with different players. Should they really be considered as dangerous? You are arguing that my involvement actually had some monsterous impact when if you look down at the initial arguments i had pulled out of my a** they were insignificant.

To quote simon on page 13

you invest so much time into your bullsh*t that it actually becomes pitiful

4 people liked his comment and agreed with his statement. I dont see how people could vote for me when i was obviously not impacting the game until you decided i was a threat and broke up the whole group in half. This is clearly your fault. You are the culprit who places the blame on others instead of taking responsibility. You had influence over peoples descion since you are seen as wise and i have little impact since i am too untrustworthy. Who had the bigger impact on peoples descions?? I'll make it easy for you all, it was not me.

(Edit)
here look here's some small sample evidence...on page 18

@nave: wow. If that's not suspicious I don't know what is. Although you seem to be quite organized and experienced, you are not yet confirmed citizen

he already thought you were suspicious but believed you had good intent on helping the group because you seemed organized and experienced. Your influence in the game is much more apparent than mine. I just make a lot of noise.

[Bamboori]

oh boy. good job doc.
and nave, if luti had been lynched yesterday and, say, been townie as well (worst case even doc), what would have been your plan? flipping a coin and lynching snomin or apoc?

[TheNave]

@LutiChris
I'm not talking about playerinteraction as in saying hi to them, but more like in, when I put pressure on you, who's lynching you and who's defending you, splitting the group into half was pretty nice because if you happened to be mafia, you could almost be certain that the last remaining mafia boy was in the group that voted for amadis, since the votes were so close there was no real reason for him to sacrifice and turning against you at all... on the other hand if you happened to turn out as a citizen, the atleast one if not both of the remaining two mafias would have voted to lynch you and follow me because I was leading the lynch at that point and it wouldn't have put any pressure on them... on the other hand, having amadis role revealed who was inactive other than a few "I RNG vote for X"-posts and who was almost 100% confirmed citizen did not make any impact atall for me to shorten down the list of possible suspects
and as your role is still uncertain right now there was no gain in information

and yes you're right I do have more influence over other peoples desicions and I tried to go for you, and guess what, it failed, in the end the citizens have let me down and did not trust me at all... that's the curse of being "seen as wise" and of having played alot of games on mafia side

@Bamboori
I'm not saying we would have had a chance of getting a mafia member 100% if he turned out to be a townie, I'm just saying we would have had more to work with than we have now after lynching Amadis

[LutiChris]

@TheNave
K

[Simoneon]

I don't know if that's against the rules, but the last sentence made by Rhino might have some clues in it. And because Nave didn't really explain as to why he targets me I have no other choice but to go with Nave. I may change ny vote after we discuss this properly because I am not fully convinced Nave is mafia. But the way he avoids confrontation pisses me off.
So yeah, explain to me please, what makes you target me and what exactly made Amadis "almost 100% townie"?

STM1993 edited this post 03-01-2016 02:32 PM because:

A bit on the grey side, but Rhino's post is fine.