Mafia

[TheNave]

So with that role you know if somebody leaves his room to do a night action, and if he enters your room you discover his role? magna just heard blowfly leaving, which is kind of obvious because mafia leaves the room to do kill somebody... so no new news atall

---

The fact that you are avoiding to accuse/kill Empirefantasy right now and you tried to kill Blow Fly since the start of the game, makes me thing he is the doctor right now.

if I remember correctly I also accused empirefantasy with you in the very first round, and also, I'm avoiding to lynch him because IT'S OUR LAST f***ing CHANCE! and I'm almost 100% certain blow and jerk are mafia, and either you or empire is the godfather, I'll figure that out later.... but since you're trying to kind of lynch me and empire now, I kind of think it's you, blow and jerk

[Apocalipsis]

Meh, you can't be 100% sure of anything. You can say something wich is wrong to try to get more info though. Out of 4 people, 3 are guilty. Right now, everyone will fight for the doctor role. Everytime we change the accusation to one of the suspicious people they will say they are the remaining doctor. The only way we can get info for sure is if checking's result is "mafia", but that won't help now. We have 25% chances of killing the real one.

I'm the trapper. If anyone want to fight for the role be my guest, I will know who I have to aim for first :p

Some things that make me doubt about you and Empirefantasy are these:

Yeesh, I know that, that's why I said I wouldn't mind killing him
but I'd rather lynch somebody inactive, empirefantasy didn't post alot or something usefull yet, that's right, but he's atleast posting SOMETHING and I know that he visits the forum atleast twice a day, there're actually players who didn't post Anything yet and are alot more inactive than him... and those who don't really care for this gama and don't play it correctly, should die first
f.e. blow_fly, didn't post anything yet, is inactive, and inactivity would only uselessly delay the game

though I'm not a fan of the role-pm'ing thing, it kind of ruins the fun, and wasn't it forbidden in some rounds before already?

Apoc you better go ahead and tell us your reasons for killin' magna, I'll vote for no-kill otherwise
-Note: Options were Magnamancy, Empirefantasy and No Kill. Why not Empirefantasy?-

so since there's nothin against empirefantasy(except for him acting abit stupid... no offence^^) I'll also go with magnamancy then

wat? ultimatum? I think he had enough time to defend himselfe, something like that wasn't done when I was lynched the previous rounds .__.
but whatever, well, he's forced to reveal his role now, and what then? we all gonna switch to no-kill and don't lynch anyone? eh...

Imo, blowfly seemd abit suspicious, don't you think so apoc? Joining in like that, voting, and leaving, it's the common mafia way... still no sure though

Alectric: Should we go back and lynch Empirefantasy then? Or did i miss something?
TheNave: Well, there wasn't even a reason to lynch him in the first place... we should wait for the night to end first
Empirefantasy: lynching me? why not lynching you?
TheNave: don't freak out empirefantasy :D

I recieved a pm from empirefantasy which kind of convinced me that he's innocent, I don't expect him to be a guy who is able to come up with a complex plan, so I belive him for now...
and yeah, Marshall and blow_fly seem suspicious, I agree
I'll accuse both of them

Basically, you were "Empirefantasy is suspicious, but let's wait" and "Let's kill Blow Fly" all the time.
That doesn't mean that you're mafia... it's just the kind of things that make me doubt of you, even when your checking's result was citizien.

Marshall, can you help us somehow with your role? o.o

Edit:

I'm almost 100% certain blow and jerk are mafia, and either you or empire is the godfather

Why's that? Blow Fly and Jerkington just voted once against Magnamancy. And why would I be the godfather? I could even be a normal mafia, you are the only one checked :/
Imo, everyone of you are in the same boat.

Wait... tell me (the four of you) who did you saved in the first night, via PM.

[TheNave]

Okay, the thing about empirefantasy is following: I was playing the mafia game on the ntsd forum alot, and you might know that there are alot users who're extremly dumb, not to offend anyone, but it's the truth, and you can't even imagine in which way they can f*** up a game, thez're saying random useless stuf all the time, in the hope to save themselfe but in truth only confusing the others, and our little empirefantasy guy is the exact same type of player, he's an extreme risk factor to kill... I can even imagine him beeing the sheriff but to stupid to contradict divisor or whatsoever(this is an example only)
And that's the thing that worries me, this is our last chance to kill a mafia member, he might be mafia, that's true, but I still don't feel to well killing him, but yeah, if you really insist on lynching him, then fine, it's your fault if we loose the game then .__.

Hope that made things clear now... also about blow and jerk beeing mafia, IT's your damn theory, everyone else was more or less beeing proven innocent !

Oh and 8'll send the pm now

[Apocalipsis]

I mean, why you say Jerkington and Blow Fly are mafia and discard the chance of one of them being godfather?

[TheNave]

Eh I kind of wasn't really paying attention on who of them is the godfather and who isn't, I meant mafia as in 'on the mafia side'

[Divisor]

Ok.
If Apoc is the trapper, then Blow_fly and Jerkington are definitely Mafia.
If Nave is the doctor, empirefantasy is one Mafia.
If empirefantasy is the doctor, then Nave is the Godfather.

Blow_fly/Jerkington will probably claim to be the Trapper to contradict Apoc, but seeing that I have experience with Mafia members posting little or not posting at all in a specific round, I suspect those two more than Apoc.

[blow_fly98]

OK there has been some fast (and unexpected) progress in this Mafia around. Reading the recent posts, I get the general gist that people are saying Jerkington and I are Mafia. I'd say that would be perfectly justifiable, considering I have been quite quiet in this thread.

However, it surprises me so many people have claimed doctor. Bamboori is dead, and there is only one doctor remaining.
I'll try keep it concise:

1. I am the doctor.
   
2. Hence one of empirefantasy and Nave are lying.
   
3. I am also not Mafia (well I'm a doctor duh).
   

In my mind, the list is actually (building on from Apoc's):

Hit List (Click to View)

Jerkington
Divisor
Empirefantasy
blow_fly98
Nave

Godfather
Mafia
Mafia Vigilante
Sheriff
Doctor

And Apoc, if you want my Doctor PMs, I can send them.

My Possible Mafia List goes like this

1. empirefantasy
   
2. Nave
   

Proof (Click to View)

I think we've all seen some of the subtle suggestions Nave gives empirefantasy, and I am inclined to think they are on the same side.
We currently have these roles still alive:

1. Godfather
   
2. Mafia
   
3. Mafia Vigilante
   
4. Sheriff
   
5. Doctor
   
6. Trapper
   
7. Marshall
   

Since (almost certainly) Apoc is the Trapper, Marshall is the Marshall, and (even more certainly) I am the Doctor, empirefantasy and Nave can only have these roles:

1. Godfather
   
2. Mafia
   
3. Mafia Vigilante
   
4. Sheriff
   

I repeat, that I am inclined to Nave and empirefanatasy are on the same side. However, there is only 1 role on the citizen side, and if they are both on the same side, then they have to both be Mafia.

On this basis, I will vote Nave, since, if my hypothesis is correct, then empirefantasy won't have an experienced Mafia player with him.

Oh, and I really hate to see it when the round ends and this whole post meant junk. But oh well, it happens.

[TheNave]

uhm yeah... no surprise blow_fly also claims to be the doctor here
but this makes me 100% sure that he's mafia now, because I'm the real one, darn...
accusing blow_fly !!!

[blow_fly98]

OK not to make this a threat or anything, but we've basically confirmed Apoc as Trapper.
How about we both send the Doctor PM that Ramond sent us to Apoc?

BTW Ramond, could you add these links to the first post? (They're the Results posts.)
http://www.lf-empire.de/forum/showthread...2#pid83792
http://www.lf-empire.de/forum/showthread...9#pid89609
http://www.lf-empire.de/forum/showthread...#pid101161
http://www.lf-empire.de/forum/showthread...#pid103278
http://www.lf-empire.de/forum/showthread...#pid114098

[Bamboori]

i will send it as well, since im the only 100% doctor. (was)