RaMafia (round 1 - end)

[Ramond]

Great! I find that rule to be a bit of a hindrance though, since there is no gain when you forbid discussions during 'nights'. Thread is simply dead until everybody posts his night action. Kind of breaks the flow, and as I said before, removes the opportunity to reflect on the past day and lynch and discuss of what could have been done better or differently.

[MangaD]

I understand your confusing, ill make it fair so for now this rule wont be active
It will be added next round

Aww... thank you.

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Hellblazer: It seems he's not the cop from the last post...

It really wasn't necessary for him to make that last post for you to realize its fishiness... C'mon, we are talking about Hellblazer here... I also doubt that he is cop, and his last post reinforces this suspicion. I also have some doubts whether he is Mafia or not. He could just be trolling, or there could be a smarter plan behind it.

TheNave: He's participative and I usually agree with him a lot, so I wouldn't want to kill him in these early lynchs.

Defending someone so early in the game without special reason. Hmm... You do realize that he can pretend to agree with you just so you won't suspect on him, right? Also, I would like to remind the fact that he pressured the death of someone, just because of Hellblazer's fishy comment, and kept his vote until the very end. So, if it depended on him, someone would have died.

MangaD: He's really suspicious imo, because he bandwagoned me for no reason as the day started, and he's incredibly eager for AmadisLFE to be checked. I know that I was the one to suggest the checking of suspicious players to prove their (temporary) innocence, or not, but I think it would be wiser to check him. The reason is simple: if he's mafia and wants AmadisLFE to be checked, there's a great chance that AmadisLFE's the Godfather, and he's a goon. There's also the chance of him being Godfather (he's really participative), and he just want innocent people to be checked. Just thinking out loud here.

I "bandwagoned" lol. I pressured you. What is that supposed to prove? You are as innocent as everyone else here, and I can pressure whoever I want, so I will get my own conclusions. Luti already pointed this out to you. And I did remove my vote and acknowledged your argument, didn't I? It's not like I want to lynch innocent people either. Though I don't deem you innocent, I trust no one in this game.

Also... what is wrong with wanting AmadisLFE to be checked? He was accused by someone for an unknown reason. If I were the cop, I would want to confirm it. If AmadisLFE is not Mafia, then Hellblazer comes to the top of the suspects list, for accusing people with no reason and giving birth to pointless arguments based on distorted facts. The probabilities of AmadisLFE being godfather are 1/11, I see no reason not to check on him.

Though I must admit, I so much discredit Hellblazer, that I wouldn't be surprised if neither of them were Mafia.
In any case, someone must be checked right? If I were the cop, I would check on AmadisLFE, as we don't know to what extent Hellblazer's comment has any meaning behind it. But, if the cop feels like checking on me, then go ahead, I am as innocent as everyone else.

[Ariel]

A sad day it is, the Town Cop died while trying to reveal the mafia.
Rest in peace Apocalipsis, honorable sheriff.

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Roles:

• 1/1 Mafia Godfather
  
• 2/2 Mafia Goons
  
• 0/1 Town Cop
  
• 1/1 Town Doctor
  
• 6/7 Townies
  

Player list(randomized):

• hellblazer
  
• prince_freeza
  
• Simoneon
  
• AmadisLFE
  
• TheNave
  
• LutiChris
  
• MangaD
  
• empirefantasy
  
• STM1993 - Townie
  
• Apocalipsis - Town Cop
  
• Ramond
  
• Jernemies
  

2nd Day Phase start

[Ramond]

This is unfortunate.

MangaD. I'd like to know what you have to say in your defense.

EDIT: Also whoever freakin' repeated Apoc to most likely be the cop.

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I don't have an opinion. I've been trying to read the past pages, but I fail paying attention for long enough (tired much?). I can't figure out why everyone is voting for Amadis other than posting statistics/things he pulled from his a**

It seems to be a very accurate a** now

[Simoneon]

so he can't tell what he checked right? twice, that is

that's what you get by not following my plan, argh, and yes im angry
we could have at least had two nights in which apoc would have been vocal, and now what
desperation id say

either way, mafia is smart in this one, that is for sure. it feels as though at least few of them are being the dominant ones in the discussions; and from what i see these people are mangad, ramond, nave and apoc. now following this logic two of them had to choose one from the other two, and they killed apoc.

it might be a very long shot but id say it should be between ramond and mangad, it feels as though they are the main brains in this operation, as nave getting a mafia role again is kind of unlikely. but i really cant base my vote on any of that so ill just wait and see what others have to say

[TheNave]

Kk, going to vote for MangaD aswell... He defended AmadisLFE alot the last day, like, even more than any normal townie would do especially if we had a hint from a possible cop, which turned out to be bullsh*t, but we weren't aware of that yet at that moment... and there are two possibilities for why this might have been:
1. MangaD is the Cop and therefor knew that Hellblazer was just talking bullsh*t, thus protecting Amadis from that useless accusation
2. MangaD and Amadis are both mafia and he tried to protect his partner

well obviously, now after Apoc was revealed to be the cop, the first option is wrong, which leaves me with the assumption that they're both mafia...
another thing to note is, that he wanted Amadis to be checked, if they're a mafia, then amadis is probably the godfather

at this point with the cop dead it doesn't matter if we get the godfather first, so yeah, just go with one of them guys

also: we should analyze apocs last post to see if he left hints about his first night-check...

Hellblazer: It seems he's not the cop from the last post... Prince_freeza: No posts yet. That's troublesome, even if he's innocent.
AmadisLFE: He's really participative and gives out so much information, which is a rare thing if he's mafia, but a good idea if he's the Godfather.
TheNave: He's participative and I usually agree with him a lot, so I wouldn't want to kill him in these early lynchs.MangaD: He's really suspicious imo, because he bandwagoned me for no reason as the day started, and he's incredibly eager for AmadisLFE to be checked. I know that I was the one to suggest the checking of suspicious players to prove their (temporary) innocence, or not, but I think it would be wiser to check him. The reason is simple: if he's mafia and wants AmadisLFE to be checked, there's a great chance that AmadisLFE's the Godfather, and he's a goon. There's also the chance of him being Godfather (he's really participative), and he just want innocent people to be checked. Just thinking out loud here.Ramond: He voted against me for no reason (probably wanted to point out bandwagoners since it was the third post of the day), but that's not that suspicious. Another (subtle) suspicious thing is that he wanted to end the day prematurely, presumably to kill AmadisLFE and avoid the No-kill. However, I also wanted to end this day by that time, so there's that.

So, those are the thoughts that I have right now. If I were Cop I would check MangaD, Prince Freeza and Ramond, in that order.

Okay, so there are two possibilites for his first night check: either he got a mafia, or an innocent person...
if he would have gotten a mafia guy, then he would have probably accused him in the day phase already... that leads me to the conclusion he only got a no-mafia result
and since he thought he was about to die, I'm sure he'd include that no-mafia guy in his list... and as far as I can see, I was the only one he wrote positive things about, so he could have checked me first night... which again, doesn't mean I'm not the godfather, but atleast no regular mafia

[MangaD]

This is unfortunate.

MangaD. I'd like to know what you have to say in your defense.

Well then... what can I say... less 1 guy in whom I suspect?

Ok, serious now. It is rather unfortunate that we lost the cop, I was counting on him to check on our primary suspects, and losing him soon was bad. I see that he had suspects on me, but he had nothing solid, and I would like you to consider this before deciding on lynching me right away. Though I would probably lynch me too if I were in your position, so I can understand. I was the primary suspect of the sheriff, and I guess that holds some meaning even if he hadn't checked on me yet.

Though, if we blindly follow his list of suspects, you will be lynched too, and nothing guarantees that his suspects are indeed Mafia, as nothing guarantees that my suspects are Mafia. And well, one of them wasn't (the one I suspected the least anyway).

Before I get lynched, I would like to say a few things as well. AmadisLFE was accusing Apocalipsis to be the cop. Any Mafia could have taken on his "advice" (yes, it ended up being an advice ) and seize this opportunity to kill him and incriminate me as a bonus. But then, why would I kill the guy that suspects me the most, if I were Mafia, it would only make me look even more suspicious. But then again, why not kill him and pretend that it was all a trick from the Mafia to incriminate me, after all, he was going to check me anyway, right?

I guess you should take your own conclusions.

One thing is certain, TheNave most probably is not mafia. Apocalipsis was defending him early, now I understand why. He probably checked on him the first night, so he knew that he was innocent. So unless TheNave is the godfather, 1/12 chances of hitting him the first night, I guess he is to be considered innocent.

[Ramond]

In fact my accusation wasn't based on what Apoc wrote in his post. I just thought about who acted in what manner the past day and you were definitely... most out of the ordinary.

[MangaD]

He defended AmadisLFE alot the last day, like, even more than any normal townie would do

It is because of things like this that I suspect you.
I defended the no-kill idea from Apocalipsis, not AmadisLFE. I still suspect AmadisLFE, especially since the cop is dead and he (at least indirectly) took part in it. As I said before, no one is innocent here until all Mafia are dead. Also, as you can see I was right about Hellblazer not being cop. So there is still a possibility of him being trolling or being Mafia. As there is a possibility of you being the godfather, so don't push your luck.

Your theory about me is fluffy, as is your avatar. But I have a theory of my own. That Hellblazer voted on AmadisLFE for unknown reason, which is actually no reason, just so that the Mafia could get a kill instead of the no-kill that Apocalipsis was proposing. Then everyone would turn against Hellblazer because hey, he was fooling us, and his partners would vote on him and kill a mafia goon, and be less suspected after that. I heard Hellblazer is usually lynched soon anyway, so that sounds like a very good strategy for the Mafia. But I also think it requires an experienced player to come up with this plan, if you know who I'm talking about... Nevertheless, chances for you to be godfather are low, and I have decided on my vote.

Vote Hellblazer.

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In fact my accusation wasn't based on what Apoc wrote in his post. I just thought about who acted in what manner the past day and you were definitely... most out of the ordinary.

That is how I play. I like to make things interesting no matter what role I have.

[prince_freeza]

voting MangaD seems like the logical thing to do now (even if you say someone is trying to incriminate you, you could be just bluffing) but i'll hold my vote for a bit because i'm still not sure and i want to see what AmadisLFE has to say about the situation there's a chance of him being the godfather.