RaMafia (round 1 - end)

[prince_freeza]

we should really lynch the inactive ones first again next round, it's just way to hard to find any clues about those...

What a pitty PF kept so quiet with his role :/

lol do it already, you just keep talking about it every round.. at least with my death it will narrow down the list and it will be obvious who the mafia's are.

prince_freeza isn't putting much of a fight

Luti plz, let us not forget you did the same thing couple of posts ago.

[LutiChris]

lol do it already, you just keep talking about it every round.. at least with my death it will narrow down the list and it will be obvious who the mafia's are.

prince_freeza isn't putting much of a fight, he is either too confident because he's assuming that everyone will jump the bandwagon and vote on me,  in which case i'll change my vote once the night round ends because I'm thinking he is mafia. (It's not like it matters but who cares)
Then again... he might be a quiet townie, i've never seen him play mafia before so i don't know how he plays.

Congratulations Luti, congratulations. After being a silent wolf all this time, you finally show your fangs now that you are being menaced.

Luti plz, let us not forget you did the same thing couple of posts ago.

I was not interested and didn't find the earlier rounds to be teaming with information so i kept silent for the most part.

I'm 100% sure Apocalipsis did not tell you anything...

If you really were trolling because you did not get any special role, as TheNave stated before, then you'd not give yourself the trouble of doing this. Even though this is a genius move from the Mafia, anyone with a bit of acuity can see you/TheNave just contradicted yourselves.

again you think you know when i'm trolling. What makes you think i'll change if i get a special role? It certainly doesn't make it a genius move if im not mafia but then again I just like to watch you guys be all confused. Again you said you're 100% sure that i've spouted out bullsh*t. There's always the possibility of an error why not 99.9% are you going to be blind to what i have said so far and not consider any word i have said to even remotely be a possibility for you to reconsider your thoughts on the matter? no one is a 100% sure about anything unless they didn't think about it and blindly typed away. you don't have any evidence only my behavior. and you can't trust eye-witness testimony not even for a second. do you really have all the facts?


Also you guys, i do have this compulsory habit of creating long replies and spewing out whatever i am thinking about. Every one of my posts are totally unnecessary but i just feel the need to elaborate the situation and my thoughts on the matter... not that it really matters but you never know. Apparently i was able to change empirefantasy's mind and now he thinks i actually was telling the truth about the whole ordeal of me pm'ing the dead. who knows, maybe i'll survive the round but i highly doubt it once again.

[MangaD]

I am waiting for apoc and stm1993 respond right here to see if they pmed luti. I doubt that apoc have broke the rules, as far as i know he he dont break the rules.

Good to know that looks obvious.

Second: mangaD then you want to accuse luti or thenave? coz i think if you are talking against the nave then accuse him not luti first.

Simply because I am sure about Luti, and I'm not so sure about TheNave. Luti also indirectly accused TheNave (who was going to vote on him). Also, everyone seems to have forgotten, but this is night phase, we are not even supposed to be discussing, but whatever.

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@up
ok then since sb broke the rules then just destroy this game and start a new one

Thing is, besides talking in the night, no other rules were broken.

What makes you so sure that the possibility of a rogue townie who can speak to ghosts not want to pm others. I guess you weren't here for the previous game because I was a justin like 90% of my buddies and i totally fooled them all by pm'ing them. It was a brilliant troll move on my part and the little fighter won

The rules have changed. I am not pm'ing anyone, so I expect everyone else (except the Mafia) to be nice and respect the rules we all agreed with at the beginning of this round. Or are you just assuming that you are Mafia by pm'ing others?

My point is, you are lying.
But it is a smart lie, you could win the game just with this.

[TheNave]

Well I trust you luti, I'm pretty sure that post was really from Apoc, it perfectly fits his way of articulation... and as I know ariel also gives you the copresults even if you die same round, just confirms that mangaD really is mafia

it's also possible that ariel just gave luti a secret ghost whisperer role, that sounds like ariel aswell, or he really just pm'ed them, but whatever it is, we got some valuable informations from the ghosts and should use it!


This is how the game will go from now... mafia is probably going to keep me and luti alive this night because mangaD tries to go with the Nave-Luti theory... that means either EF or PF dies this night, the remaining one is the godfather (I assume it's PF, EF sounds unlikely to me)... then we're going to lynch MangaD who turns out to be mafia... that means the remaining players are Me, Ramond, Luti and the Godfather... in the night they'll probably kill Luti... that means Me, Ramond and the Godfather will be left... and at that point it's up to Ramond whether he trusts me or not...

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PS: If luti actually made all this up then I'm happy to fall for it and loose the game... it's just plain awesome

[LutiChris]

My point is, you are lying

there was only one thing i lied about and that was me being the doctor. Obviously having three people say they were the doctor is suspicious but I did it so that everyone would vote for me because it would have been a cool death streak but no my plans were foiled when a mafia member was killed so even though im defending myself I couldn't give a hoot if i died or not. Maybe that's why TheNave thinks if i was mafia this would be an awesome plan. No mafia in their right mind would dare put this much effort and risk if they had nothing to lose in the first place.

If luti actually made all this up then I'm happy to fall for it and loose the game... it's just plain awesome

sadly I'm not that brilliant but thank you nonetheless :P

[MangaD]

There's always the possibility of an error why not 99.9% are you going to be blind to what i have said so far and not consider any word i have said to even remotely be a possibility for you to reconsider your thoughts on the matter?

Yes, I will. Simply because you said Apocalipsis told you that he checked on me and I am Mafia, which wow, should I have doubts about the veracity of that statement? Guysss, am I Mafia?! I did not knowww.

As I said before, despite the fact that I know I am townie (making me 100% sure that you are bluffing); suppose you were accusing someone else (TheNave, EF or Pf...) and I did not know; I highly doubt Apocalipsis would tell you anything that could change the course of the game, since he is dead and I think everyone playing this game knows it would be wrong to do so; but even supposing he would indeed tell you, I also don't think Ariel gave him the answer that night, considering that he died and does not need to know the answer.

[TheNave]

I also don't think Ariel gave him the answer that night, considering that he died and does not need to know the answer.

he always did in the last rounds though...

[LutiChris]

Yes, I will. Simply because you said Apocalipsis told you that he checked on me and I am Mafia, which wow, should I have doubts about the veracity of that statement? Guysss, am I Mafia?! I did not knowww

What i'm saying is you can't be 100% certain that i didn't pm the players who died. Apoc is just theorizing in no way is it 100% certain that he too knows the facts.

even when we know Apoc was a cop, we don't know for certain if Ariel told him anything furthor on the matter.

We just have rely on our intuition with what we are given.

he always did in the last rounds though...

he did? well i guess that clears everything up... i'm just really speculative

[TheNave]

Guys, we had a little talk on irc about the current game, and since it is against the rules I thought it would only be fair to post it in this thread so everyone can read it... it was only discussion between participants that were alive so there wouldn't have been a problem if it was held in here aswell (well and stm, but those weren't really valuable informations or anything)

[15:42] NaveTK: lol this mafia game, turned out to be hilarious with luti
[15:42] Stm93: MAFIA SCUM, HOW DARE YOU SHOW YOUR FACE AROUND HERE
[15:42] Stm93:
[15:42] NaveTK: xDDD
[15:43] NaveTK: it's so stupid you died first night
[15:43] NaveTK: I really wanted you to play
[15:43] Stm93: i believe you. i really dont think my death was from any of the mafia actually voting for anyone.
[15:43] NaveTK: huh what do you mean?
[15:43] Stm93: night phase, mafia will vote someone to kill
[15:44] NaveTK: they have to vote to kill though
[15:44] Stm93: if no one votes, ariel will randomly pick someone
[15:44] Stm93: isn't that how it works?
[15:44] NaveTK: I'm not sure
[15:44] NaveTK: but why would they not vote?
[15:45] NaveTK: I thought if nobody voted there is no kill, and if the votes tie then it's random between the tied votes
[15:45] NaveTK: so atleast one must have voted for you
[15:45] Stm93: lemme dig up ariel's posts
[15:45] NaveTK: am I actually breaking the rules right now? it's just talking about the rules, no game informations right?
[15:45] Stm93: just rules
[15:47] Stm93: "11. If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. If you miss a deadline, a random choice will be made. This usually involves you being very unhappy."
[15:48] NaveTK: hmm
[15:48] NaveTK: holy f***, it has been 27 pages already xD
[15:48] Stm93: 13 pages for me, i doubled the number of posts i see per thread
[15:48] Stm93: *per page
[15:48] NaveTK: well I can't imagine them not voting anyways
[15:49] NaveTK: still a nice round, MangaD is awesome in this game
[15:49] NaveTK: he should join next time again
[15:49] MangaD: Thank you.
[15:49] NaveTK:
[15:49] Stm93: i'm very demotivated after dying in first round though D:
[15:49] MangaD: You live up to your reputation as well.
[15:50] NaveTK: nahhh you got me fooled for quite some time, I actually thought you were innocent for like day 3 to night 4
[15:50] Pf_: could say the same thing for you
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[15:51] NaveTK: @Stm93 well, if ariel makes me mafia next round, I'll make sure to keep you alive and manipulate you as much as possible :b
[15:51] Stm93:
[15:54] MangaD: Now now, looks like someone is trying to prove his innocence in the wrong place.
[15:55] MangaD: Typical of a mafia. :.:
[15:55] Stm93: hush, we all know both mafia scum are here on this irc, you can't fool us!
[15:55] MangaD: Unless it is Luti and EF, then yes.
[15:56] MangaD: I wonder why no one attacked EF yet
[15:58] NaveTK: there is no reason to keep the charade up here MangaD... there's no townie in here to read it anyways
[15:58] NaveTK: so just quit it
[15:58] MangaD: says the guy who's master at it
[15:58] NaveTK: because EF did some convincing things to proove he's innocent
[15:59] MangaD: nobody is innocent, nobody
[15:59] MangaD: except Ramond
[15:59] Stm93: NOTHING IS TRUE, EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED
[16:00] NaveTK: I quote EF: "@Ariel arent you supposed to show us night target?" when the one nightkill failed
[16:00] NaveTK: that's not something mafia would ask
[16:00] NaveTK: while you MangaD, instantly assumed Ramond saved himselfe
[16:00] NaveTK: which is logical thing to think but there was no proof on that
[16:00] MangaD: Ramond said so
[16:01] NaveTK: he might be lying
[16:01] MangaD: no one else claimed to be doc except for Luti
[16:01] MangaD: that's one of the reasons I wanted to lynch Luti the day before
[16:01] MangaD: if he ended up being the doc...
[16:01] NaveTK: luti got accused by amadis in day 2 already
[16:02] Stm93: pretty sure doctor can't save himself from a day lynch, only night kills.
[16:02] NaveTK: lol if luti was actually the doc and ramond mafia, this would be epic xD
[16:02] MangaD: not a possibility to discard
[16:02] MangaD: but for me it is now, unless Luti is master troll
[16:03] NaveTK: another thing about EF is, he was the first one to join my vote on Amadis back at day 1... while at that moment mafia still tried to defend him (cough you MangaD cough), it's very unlikely for ef to be the godfather
[16:03] NaveTK: and you're pretty much confirmed mafia now MangaD, apoc checked you, just accept it
[16:03] NaveTK: who are you trying to fool here?
[16:03] MangaD: I wanted him to be checked to avoid any innocent casualties. Hellblazer did not say he was cop, even when it seemed to be obvious, so I doubted him.
[16:04] MangaD: Maybe Apoc checked me. Maybe he got the answer.
[16:04] MangaD: That does not mean Luti is saying the truth.
[16:05] NaveTK: nah it looked like a normal quote, from apoc, it matches the way he usually talks aswell
[16:05] MangaD: I did say if Hellblazer affirmed to be the cop, I would vote Amadis
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[16:06] Pf_: NaveTK and Luti you both looks like best buddies atm
[16:06] NaveTK: and I have no reason not to belive it, now that jernemies was innocent, you were pretty much the last one left on my list besides pf
[16:06] MangaD: Was about to say that.
[16:06] Pf_: agreeing with eachother and sh*t
[16:06] MangaD: You killed Jernemies.
[16:06] NaveTK: I know
[16:06] MangaD: I never really wanted to lynch him.
[16:06] Deep: is everyone talking about MAfia?
[16:06] MangaD: yes
[16:07] MangaD: problem?
[16:07] Deep: it gets me headache
[16:07] Stm93: (log horizon is awesome so far, i'm 3 episodes in.)
[16:07] Deep: everytime :3
[16:07] NaveTK: why?
[16:08] NaveTK: I think hellblazer should be first night kill every round, he always f***** up both sides, no matter which role he has xD
[16:08] Deep: i don't know even...
[16:08] MangaD: NaveTK: I guess that makes things simple then. You and Luti happen to be the last ones in my list. So the decision resides on Ramond.
[16:08] Deep: and i don't even understand the instructions..
[16:09] Deep: what is a townie? :3 -__-
[16:09] MangaD: Which means it's pointless for us to argue any further, we both know who is the Mafia here.
[16:09] Pf_: mini town
[16:09] Pf_: townie is a pet name for a town
[16:09] NaveTK: MangaD well, like in the scenario described, two days from now there will be Ramond, me and the godfather left, and it's his decision who he's going to belive, everything lies on his shoulders
[16:09] Stm93: townie-chan
[16:09] Deep:
[16:10] Pf_: i'll have you know im sending screen shots to ariel about this convo
[16:10] MangaD: no no, this night you kill either Pf or Ef, next day  you lynch me, and you win already
[16:10] Pf_: >: D
[16:10] NaveTK: yeah I don't mind Pf
[16:10] Pf_: good
[16:11] NaveTK: I doubt Ariel is bothering about that when he allowed the lutithing to happen
[16:11] NaveTK: atleast I'm not talking to ghosts
[16:11] MangaD: Luti is not talking as well.
[16:11] NaveTK: actually, to make it fair we should post this discussion in the thread for everyone to see it
[16:11] Pf_: agreed
[16:11] NaveTK: I'm copying it right now

[MangaD]

he always did in the last rounds though...

This is not last rounds. You were defending Luti last day with the pitiful excuse of "he is trolling", and now you suddenly become best buddies...

We just have rely on our intuition with what we are given.

And you were not given anything.
On the other hand, you have been silent all the time, until attention turned towards you that is (damn that Amadis ). Then you have the brilliant idea of claiming to be the doc, which I think everyone realized by this time that you are not. "BUT WAIT, I was just trolling! No, don't lynch me!"

Aside from me, why should other people believe you now? That's because you and TheNave are masters at playing Mafia roles and managed to plot something very convincing against me. (Which, aside from your word, doesn't prove anything.)