RaMafia (round 1 - end)

[A-Man]

Isn't pf a thug?

yeah so, what about it?

You're a ghost, and the game is still on. If the mafia win, you win too.

[Rhino.Freak]

Unlike you, I never lie!

[prince_freeza]

Isn't pf a thug?

yeah so, what about it?

You're a ghost, and the game is still on. If the mafia win, you win too.

i could care less who wins this game.. i lost interest the moment i saw i was killed by mafia.
and since then i have been engaging in the discussion purely as a neutral party.

Edit: wait. You're a thug. Why would you want a mafia to die?
Unless... you're *not* killing a mafia.

is that going to be your defense now?

[mfc]

This is what I told MangaD after he PMed me claiming he's the doctor and is finding the sheriff.

MangaD What do you have to say about this?

[Rhino.Freak]

Edit: wait. You're a thug. Why would you want a mafia to die?
Unless... you're *not* killing a mafia.

is that going to be your defense now?

I don't defend myself here. I'm just speaking the truth here.
Whatever you guys make of it. Go for it.

[MangaD]

Well Hellblazer recently came to me on Skype (after I posted mine and A-man's conversation here)
And he talked to me while being very eager and curious to just "be honest" about our roles. He informed me that he's a sheriff. But the more I tried to confuse him he changed his story a lot more times.
This is what I told MangaD after he PMed me claiming he's the doctor and is finding the sheriff.

This is basically what happened. I told Rhino I was the doc, so Mafia couldn't kill me because I'd save myself. I think I was a very likely target for the mafia, so Pf dying instead of me lifts a lot of suspicions here. Why wasn't I targeted? Because they really thought I was the doc. Getting no kill would be pointless.

Also, you may notice that Rhino has no problem revealing sensitive information. He immediately told me he suspected Hellblazer to be sheriff, disregarding the possibility that I was lying. Though it is clear that Hellblazer is not sheriff and Rhino knows this, because Hellblazer told Rhino that he was checked and was innocent, which seems to be a lie now.

If Rhino were a citizen, would he leak this information about Hellblazer being sheriff? Same about me being a doc, would he reveal that, regardless of what he thinks it to be true or not? ;]

[Apocalipsis]

First, I would like to point out that MangaD, Luti, STM (and the deceased mfc) are acting as a collective. Since mfc was revealed to be a citizen, I am inclined to believe it's a citizen collective, but it's also possible that not everyone of them is innocent. I remember a couple of random accusations between them, but they are always discarded when it counts.

To summarize the round so far in my eyes:

Back when A-MAN revealed the first screenshot of the threat PM I was all like "Ok, Rhino's mafia, let's kill him". Later, A-MAN revealed that it was not Rhino who PMed him, but Luti. Because of the lie and other stuff, I decided to vote against A-MAN. A lot of other players did, and he ended up being a citizen.

Then it was obvious that A-MAN was being honest about Luti sending the threat PM. "Ok, Luti's mafia, let's kill him next day", I thought. But a no-kill bandwagon (started by mfc, MangaD, Luti and STM) ensued. I followed it because the strategy made sense, but we got no information out of that day whatsoever. Then, out of the blue and without confirmation of the Sheriff, they contradict themselves and start another bandwagon, but this time against Rhino.

I don't know if the IRC conversation is truth or not since I don't use IRC. To me it's Luti's word (and STM/PF), against Rhino's. I don't need to say that I don't believe Luti at all, but I'm also suspicious about Rhino now. If I have to be honest, it seems to me like Luti's waving to the cameras from the beginning and Rhino is the most pathetic mafia ever in that conversation.

I feel like killing Rhino now, but at the same time I fear that I may be falling into yet another full-bandwagon that may result in no clues if he dies and ends up being a citizen.

Edit:

This is basically what happened. I told Rhino I was the doc, so Mafia couldn't kill me because I'd save myself. I think I was a very likely target for the mafia, so Pf dying instead of me lifts a lot of suspicions here. Why wasn't I targeted? Because they really thought I was the doc. Getting no kill would be pointless. ;)

"I think I was a very likely target for the mafia". Why?
If you are killed because you gave false information about being the Sheriff, it would be supported by probabilities (1/7), but in your case, there were (6/7) chances of you not being killed.

[Rhino.Freak]

@MangaD when you talked about special roles and all things, I really believed you were the doctor (and still sort of do). I believed you because you were convincing enough and we have been talking before that pm too. I had to make a decision whether to believe you or not and I made it because if you were speaking the truth then that's going to be helpful if you unite with sheriff but w/e.
I got trolled so much.

[empirefantasy]

then whom do you want to suspect you apoc?

[Ramond]

May I clarify on a rule:

Participants who are dead are not allowed to have private discussions about the ongoing game.
Consequently, participants who are alive are not allowed to have private discussions with dead players about the ongoing game in any way.