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Simoneon · 03-03-2016, 05:05 PM

Luti, don't even add a question mark near empirefantasy's name, it's clear you're both mafias yo

Hope you die today

TheNave · 03-03-2016, 05:07 PM

empirefantasy is innocent.

LutiChris · (This post was last modified: 03-03-2016, 05:11 PM by LutiChris.)

Quote:if it's a player that got insider information it's breaking the rules... if it's somebody that's not playing the game and just observing his information are as limited as ours so his opinion shouldn't be taken as a fact either

I need not to worry about inside information coming in. No one can confirm this but me and the sender even if its breaking the rules you wont knkw if im lieing or not. All i can do is make you speculate. This isnt some troll like behavior since we are already mid game i am very serious. I can act however i want. At least im proving yoy with information unlike last time

Edit) simon
Honestly i think empirefantasy is in the clear but in order for this to make sense i had to put him in that category since hes not very active. By all means i can make a new list but there is a slight ..ever so slightly feeling with me that we should be careful and consider his inactivity. I still think we should be wary of bamboori and jernemies. If this information is not correct i can only assume the sender gave me false information

TheNave · 03-03-2016, 05:13 PM

you do know that communicating with people outside this thread is against the rules, right?

LutiChris · (This post was last modified: 03-03-2016, 05:17 PM by LutiChris.)

And u do know i could be lieing, right?

Edit) okay apparently this information should be correct since a third person is involved in the so-called communication. You may not be confident but i sure as hell am. If i survive however many rounds my results are locked. Jernemies and bamboori are both mafia

Bamboori · 03-03-2016, 05:15 PM

i think you using pm'd information should be reason enough already to lynch you. if you did'nt get any pm, it just adds to your chaos spreading.

Simoneon · 03-03-2016, 05:16 PM

If Luti is not mafia, I'd have to say I'm really impressed by the mafia this game. No slip ups even in this chaos (which seems synthesised to me). It's clear I'm not enjoying this match for some reason, which might be because I seriously can't see who's behind all this mess. Everyone is contributing to the chaos in some way and those who're not don't seem to be suspicious as well. Argh.
I'm just taking that PM by Luti as a slip up and thus going for him. Another obvious reason is to reduce the chaos and maybe notice who're the real slugs here. But eh, got to admit, it's exhausting to read through all of this crap every day

LutiChris · (This post was last modified: 03-03-2016, 05:26 PM by LutiChris.)

You know i like bending the rules. But since i am serious about playing would that make me a liar or a cheater? Im just using whatever to my advantage. No reason why mafia would go out of their way to cause such confusion. That is your own fault not mine. The mafia could have kept silent on this and would indefinitely voted for you or apoc. Just because i did a 3way makes me suspicious? Why would a mafia go out of their way to cause new problems? It doesnt make any blinking sense. Remember how you bamboori were the last guy to vote? You dont want to have any conflict whatsoever while im doing as much as i can regsrdless if people accuse me.

STM1993 · (This post was last modified: 03-03-2016, 05:29 PM by STM1993.)

Classic Mafia - Night 3

(03-03-2016, 04:46 PM)LutiChris Wrote: It was not chaos..well now it is because people are getting overworked over a 3way tie i suggested. Did it even make it worse for me to send stm the message instead of posting it here?
If most of you guys vote for me then fine. But go after those two people i have mentioned when i die. Trust me. Someone messaged me out of the blue on these two. I will not tell you who but their reasons seemed to make sense to me. Since you guys dont know if im really telling the truth or not this wont get them in trouble because. you said i brought chaos well here it is.

(03-03-2016, 05:08 PM)LutiChris Wrote:
Quote:if it's a player that got insider information it's breaking the rules... if it's somebody that's not playing the game and just observing his information are as limited as ours so his opinion shouldn't be taken as a fact either
I need not to worry about inside information coming in. No one can confirm this but me and the sender even if its breaking the rules you wont knkw if im lieing or not. All i can do is make you speculate. This isnt some troll like behavior since we are already mid game i am very serious. I can act however i want. At least im proving yoy with information unlike last time

Edit) simon
Honestly i think empirefantasy is in the clear but in order for this to make sense i had to put him in that category since hes not very active. By all means i can make a new list but there is a slight ..ever so slightly feeling with me that we should be careful and consider his inactivity. I still think we should be wary of bamboori and jernemies. If this information is not correct i can only assume the sender gave me false information

(03-03-2016, 05:22 PM)LutiChris Wrote: You know i like bending the rules. But since i am serious about playing would that make me a liar or a cheater? Im just using whatever to my advantage. No reason why mafia would go out of their way to cause such confusion. That is your own fault not mine. The mafia could have kept silent on this and would indefinitely voted for you or apoc. Just because i did a 3way makes me suspicious? Why would a mafia go out of their way to cause new problems? It doesnt make any blinking sense. Remember how you bamboori were the last guy to vote? You dont want to have any conflict whatsoever while im doing as much as i can regsrdless if people accuse me.

Okay THAT'S it. LutiChris, a Town Citizen dies.

Even the vote results are pointing to have you killed anyway:

Vote Lynch Count (Click to View)

I don't care if you're lying or not. This rule of no-outside talk, I'm very well aware, can't really be enforced and I'm relying on people's honesty, but the fact that you're willing to play that as a card during discussions shows a blatant disregard for it.

I honestly regret extending this phase. Will make a proper post in the morning as its late.

LutiChris · (This post was last modified: 03-03-2016, 06:04 PM by LutiChris.)

Stm made a mistake, all i did was speculate but since i got the information correct i had to die. Good job with being neutral on the rules. I guess this means everytime i play i can continue to say i got into contact with people and instantly get killed.

You cant rely on my honesty as that went out the window the very 1st post that i made but i guess that doesnt matter now that you realized i got this correct. Did you even consider that i guessed correctly or that i got this information from people who werent eveb playing the game (that can include my buddies from school whobhave no involvement with lfe)

And dont say you would do this if i hadnt gotten it right. Because if thats the case then anyone even mentioning their involvment with pms will be killed off. Are you going to enforce that on the 1st person who declares that in a new round? Everyone else will know thst was horse sh*t because it is unlikely for then to get it correct on the 1st get go. But now that anyone who is willing to play that card means people dont have the freedom to lie. So what you are doing is excluding me from future games because deception is always my main tactic. Taking that away from me you will only have people who dont take the risks that i do and are only going to have so many limited restrictions that the game will be stale. Chaos is fun. Learn to like it or you will not have me as a future player.

Edit) btw i actually did guess correctly. No one helped me.

Edit2) you pointing out that i got more votes is not a justified reason as i have been voted by the majority twice in a row and managed to weasel my way out of it thanks to my decieving tactics. This is a pro and con for me but limiting tactics because it is no honest is pathetic and unfair. Imagine everyone else saying they messaged people but they really didnt. That rule is so weak and cant be enforced when you have people like me that refuse to be 100% honest about anything whenbit comes to games. Dishonesty makes it interesting, honesty is bland. Your involvement only confirmed the lie to be the true. That was a mistake on your part and you broke the game not me.

Edit3) you said you would do this only if you found out. You cant find out so that wasnt fair. I didnt agree to restrict my tactics. If you talk with any of the players here you will see i am telling the truth and that no one contacted me. I am rightfully angry that i managed to get it correct and my punishment was because i used a tactic that i use in every game. Your rule wasnt thoroughly thought out as well. I dont see how i should be punished when no one can confirm the lie i made up. Your involvement in my tactic screwed up the game. Its not like i did this in private i did this out in the open with everyone to see.

STM1993 edited this post 03-03-2016 06:05 PM because:

Dishonesty about the rule itself is the issue, not the dishonesty in itself. I am very well aware this rule was unenforceable in the first place, but I kept it anyway hoping people and you most of all would not try to bend them to the extent you have, and because I didn't want to deviate from Nave's ruleset.

Anyway, now that I've calmed down a bit, I will take this incident into account for future rounds. You do have a valid point about the enforcing thing and that lying is one of the things that makes this game fun.

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