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@A-Man
There are too many factors to consider, how can you say i'm more likely to be a WW from your statistics? Again, i didn't read your posts. Condense it down for us in one post on how this is the more likely case.

I won't believe it no matter what because i know what my alignment is.
see if everyone else will buy into your bogus argument.
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If there is another Knight out there please reveal yourself immediately. It's probable that Luti did this drama right after 1 Knight died so that before the real townie Knight appears he can try to make everyone believe he's the townie Knight. Just thinking...
(03-20-2016, 06:41 PM)mfc Wrote:  Be the unsqueezable sponge!
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LutiChris Wrote:ha! are you actually retarded?! if i said nothing you wouldn't have gained anything at least me saying something gives you something to think about. how does me saying anything not bring anything to the table? are you delusional? do you think everything coming out of my mouth is a lie?
lol no, it's you who's losing his composure. I'm not saying you're lying, but what I'm saying suggests that I do believe you're actually a Knight. My question remains, what do we gain from this information?

LutiChris Wrote:well knowing what my role actually is i can declare that your statistics are horseshit.
Are you trying to retract the confession you made? My statistics are based off me believing what you're saying is the truth, which is the reverse of what you accused me with in the first part of your post.

Quote:Fair enough. Let's just wait for him to reveal it. :p
Sounds good to me, though he mustn't reveal anything this turn. What do you think of LutiChris?
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I'm simply giving you a statement, you guys can either buy into my claim that i am a townie knight. I can play devil's advocate which will result in me retracting or double down my position to confuse WW's if i'm actually a Knight or somebody else. Having most people on board with me being a WW might actually be a bad thing if for whatever reason WW don't actually want the knight to be alive. Then i guess it would make sense for me to double down on me being a knight. suspicious? ofc! my goal for this round is to continue the conversation, avoid WW from killing me and convincing the majority of you to not vote for me. although it would be helpful if i had a few votes because none at all might actually make me be the victim to the WW's.

Anyways, i still don't believe they will come after me because i'm willing to state all this stuff and it might backfire just like it did with you A-Man. Too many folks are here.. why would they bother killing me when its very unlikely for me to block their kill. frankly at this point since i gave up my strategy idk if they are going to pick active players inspite of what i said or continue their route of inactive players.
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(03-23-2016, 08:14 PM)LutiChris Wrote:  I'm simply giving you a statement, you guys can either buy into my claim that i am a townie knight.
Yeah, but why did you give us this statement? The only people I can see making use of that are the werewolves. But I do believe you had something in your mind when you said what you said. Please be clear with your answer.

Quote: I can play devil's advocate which will result in me retracting or double down my position to confuse WW's if i'm actually a Knight or somebody else.
Nah, that will only make you more suspicious.
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(03-23-2016, 07:34 PM)Neeragon Wrote:  
(03-23-2016, 07:20 PM)mfc Wrote:  He didn't do anything to lure any Knts out. He only tried his best to make sure he will survive.
It makes sense that he wanted to protect himself, what doesn't make sense is why he wanted to know which half of the name list is the knight from, he also gave the half list a particular timing for saving him, like first half night 1 , 2nd half night 2, what if the knight was in 2nd half, why was he not thinking about that and focused on tracking down the knight?

That's to ensure he will be saved every night, he didnt ask who the knights are. How is that divided list suppose to help him track knights down?
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A-Man Wrote:Nah, that will only make you more suspicious.

That is exactly my intention!

A-Man Wrote:The only people I can see making use of that are the werewolves. But I do believe you had something in your mind when you said what you said. Please be clear with your answer.

I already gave you guys my reasons to why i can't be clear. i can certainly state i'm the townie knight. but if what mfc says is true then it would make sense for me to not be so clear about it in the first place. i still doubt that but its worth being safe while being controversial and confusing in my statements. totally worth it!
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(03-23-2016, 07:34 PM)LutiChris Wrote:  
bamboori Wrote:Seeing how bad it was revealing too much too soon I will keep quiet for now

no. that's bad reasoning. ideally we should get everyone's voice and hope to get more subtle clues from it all or are you a WW shying away from public opinion?

He shouldn't share info. Early released info only helps WW. He should share all the info he gathered after his death or when he really needs to (Suche as, if somebody tries to lie and he knows).

(03-23-2016, 08:06 PM)Rhino.Freak Wrote:  If there is another Knight out there please reveal yourself immediately.

No. Any townie Knt revealing himself is free WW pick. Doesn't matter however luti is acting. He is always a troll and he lied for his weird reasons even on the town side in his past games.

Luti simply laid down his cards. Our answer shouldn't involve giving out WW the last actual Knt.
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my reasons:
stating im a knight +1 for everyone, stating it doesn't really harm me 0 because...
not being clear about my role in case WW actually want to kill a knight +1 for me -1 for townie's trust
townies not being trustful of me could lead WW to leave me alone because they might assume i might get voted for +1 for me -1 in case it backfires. = 0

this strategy will work for me, that's why im pursing it
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(03-23-2016, 08:22 PM)LutiChris Wrote:  
A-Man Wrote:Nah, that will only make you more suspicious.

That is exactly my intention!
More suspicious only to the townies, mind you. If I were a werewolf, and you were a townie of course, I'd totally try you next.


LutiChris Wrote:I already gave you guys my reasons to why i can't be clear. i can certainly state i'm the townie knight. but if what mfc says is true then it would make sense for me to not be so clear about it in the first place. i still doubt that but its worth being safe while being controversial and confusing in my statements. totally worth it!
It really would've been easier if you just said something along the lines "Ah, I didn't think it through". But right now, there's just too many statements from you, and of all kinds; persuasive, offensive, defensive, iterative, provocative ..etc. And to be honest, you've been really just going in circles with all of this.

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mfc Wrote:Luti simply laid down his cards. Our answer shouldn't involve giving out WW the last actual Knt.
But this can't be justified by reason, can it? I don't think I need to hear it from you, we need to hear it from him and make sure of his intentions.
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