Classic Mafia - Conclusion!

[TheNave]

Okay reason why I instantly "knew" mfc was lying was: the stuff he said was pure bullsh*t
from mafia point of view it would have made absolutely no sense for them to pull something like that off if what he said was true... also, nobody else claimed to be the cop, and you had no reason to lie about your identity that kinda confirmed mfc's lies even more...
actually I'm surprised by how many people actually considered mfcs word to be possible, risking two mafia members on day 1 with a 3:11 ratio?! and something like that from mfc's, a "play it slow an gather information"-type of player... no way
that's why I was so sure about it

and about him mentioning my name, dunno... ususally when you ask a confirmed mafia guy about his allies he'll give you a random name... why would he betray his buddys, also the context on how he gives the name wouldn't matter, saying "well, Player X is mafia, go for that one" and "well, it's definitly not Player X though" will both make Player X look suspicious even though it's the complete opposite message

and about CosmicSarasa beeing 50% suspicious on my list, that's like I said on the list, because he posted absolutley nothing that would make him apear more citizen like, 'nor did the post anything that makes him look more mafia like, that's why he was at exactly 50%... everyone on my list started at 50% and then depending on what they post I make that percentage go higher or lower if it was mafia-ish or town-ish... so basically 50% stood for "no clue"

I hope I answered all your questions

[LutiChris]

@Luti/Amadis/Rhino
do you have any reason other than RNG why you vote for me?

No ...well, you'll find out

[Darl]

I can't help but think Rhino is being extremely suspicious right now. I really have to wonder why the rest of the Mafia didn't try to target you this night. Why would they kill someone as apparently inactive as Cosmic, when the Cop is right there?

You could say: "But Darl, the doctor is still alive and he'd target me". I don't know, fam, not with mfc's words. Even if they don't have much weight, I kind of sense he created a bit of doubt.

[Simoneon]

As much as I don't want to agree with anyone this game and form any bonds, I have to agree with Darl here. There's still the possibility that mfc "clicked" after he got accused not because he was lazy and didn't want to try and convince everyone that he's not mafia (which would have been possible if not his raeg) but because it was indeed another mafia member accusing him. Still, the reaction was not intelligent (unless Rhino is actually a cop and somehow mfc knew it but then again I would have used that info to shoot him at night and not over react like that, thus saving one mafia member) and it was just an emotional discharge in my eyes. That's why I'd believe Rhino is the other mafia.
But we first have to ask ourselves if we are going to be able to play and win without the cop? I'd say it would really make difference if the last remaining mafia was godfather. Cop would be as useful as a townie. Which is why I'd risk voting for Rhino. It is also not a bad time for the real cop to come in and maybe hint towards his role. Or is it? I'm bad at this :D

I'll vote a bit later, need more info.

[Rhino.Freak]

It's pretty clear you are falling for their trick, mafia WANT you guys to not trust me. Mfc set it up nicely, and the other mafia are doing smart things to take the cop down.
By NOT targeting me they get :
1. To build suspicion on me.
2. A nearly assured kill which can even be a doctor.

Mfc and other mafias are laughing at us right now. Don't be delusional.
You just said it there Simon, his reaction was indeed intelligent. There will be no other person claiming to be the cop. He will be a mafia if he comes and even if you guys trust him more (because a dying mafia's last resort worked on you) and kill me first, after that he's next.

@Darl while I do agree with having a fair point my suspicion on you raised a little bit

@Simoneon like you said Cop is as good as. Townie, I'll happily voluntarily get lynched once I find the other mafia goon.

@TheNave fair enough. Sounds good to me.

[TheNave]

@Darl , mafia ratio was at 2:10 at the beginning of the night, I doubt they can risk wasting a night by targeting somebody that has a high chance of beeing saved, they have to make every nightkill count to win this game and inactive players are usually the least likely of beeing saved

@Simoneon , wouldn't the real cop clear that doubt if that really was the case? Imo Rhino is the real cop and mfcs supposed "snapping" was just a lame try to take rhino down with him

Edit: damn, ninja'ed

[AmadisLFE]

@TheNave
No, for me its just RNG....I will change my vote that is on one condition, that is: Someone else appears to be more suspicious.

[Simoneon]

Mfc set it up nicely, and the other mafia are doing smart things to take the cop down.

Elaborate, please.

You just said it there Simon, his reaction was indeed intelligent.

Nope. Read again.

[Rhino.Freak]

By NOT targeting me they get :
1. To build suspicion on me.
2. A nearly assured kill which can even be a doctor.

This. Can't you see it is working right now? Lol.

Also you mentioned "Unless..." in bracket so you know what I said is correct.

[TheNave]

Mfc set it up nicely, and the other mafia are doing smart things to take the cop down.

Elaborate, please.

having the cop revealed so soon is generally really bad, this way the Doctor is forced to save the Cop each night...
with the Doctor ability wasted on the Cop, mafia can then thin out the citizens by killing random other players
by killing randomly they also have a chance of killing the doctor
doctor will have to consider that possibility and begins to maybe save himself or maybe not

Generally, by randomly killing people the mafia do only have three possible outcomes:
1. Kill a random citizen -> good for mafia
2. Kill the Doctor by chance -> even better for mafia
3. Random citizen they targeted was saved -> that citizen is almost certainly the Doctor -> Doctors identity is good enough for mafia

By targeting the Cop at night they do only have two possible outcomes:
1. Kill Cop because Doc didn't trust him -> really good for mafia
2. Fail the kill and don't get any informations -> really bad for mafia


as you can see, no disadvantages by random killing, also, they'll most likely kill the rather inactive players first as their death will not reveal any informations for the other citizens to analyze