RaMafia (round 1 - end)

[MangaD]

It's the little things you have to pay attention to which made me change my vote, I guess apoc saw it to, in fact it's quite obvious... but if that little detail was actually some bullsh*t, expect me to flame somebody really hard next phase

If you are talking about Hellblazer's vote, then it really looks like bs to me. Worst case scenario, everyone would vote for AmadisLFE, killing innocent guy (could be cop or doc), then next day everyone would vote for Hellblazer, killing another innocent guy. Not so bad case scenario, everyone would kill AmadisLFE, innocent guy, then kill Hellblazer (Mafia guy). Best case scenario, Hellblazer is cop and he guessed right on the very first night, and AmadisLFE is indeed Mafia. Knowing Hellblazer, I would rather believe this is not the case, and we should wait for the cop to confirm this. I don't see why the hurry to kill someone based on something that could be a huge loophole.

Btw, just in case my previous vote did not take effect. Unvote Apocalipsis. Vote No-Kill.

[Apocalipsis]

Bah, subtle things don't work here.

I would rather believe this is not the case, and we should wait for the cop to confirm this.

If you're sure that Hellblazer is not the Cop, why are you suggesting that the real one should appear? I hope that's a hint for something else.
Just in case, if Hellblazer is not the Cop, and the real one is reading this: don't reveal yourself, this may be a trick just for that.

I'm with Nave on this one... AmadisLFE's death would provide us with a lot of information, whatever the result.
I mean, it's clearly stated on the rules that external conversations are prohibited, so there are not many things that could give him 'special' information.
Also, AmadisLFE faced 4 votes against him and did not state to be Doctor or Cop... so I guess it's safe to assume he's Townie or mafia.

[TheNave]

everyone would vote for AmadisLFE, killing innocent guy (could be cop or doc)

I really doubt he has a special role, he would have revealed it by now if that was the case... and if amadis is mafia, keep in mind you'd be next on my list

[Ramond]

Bah, subtle things don't work here.

Depends. I believe some things are far too subtle for even anyone to notice. But oh well, that's another way to play it...

[AmadisLFE]

Bah, subtle things don't work here.

I would rather believe this is not the case, and we should wait for the cop to confirm this.

If you're sure that Hellblazer is not the Cop, why are you suggesting that the real one should appear? I hope that's a hint for something else.
Just in case, if Hellblazer is not the Cop, and the real one is reading this: don't reveal yourself, this may be a trick just for that.

I'm with Nave on this one... AmadisLFE's death would provide us with a lot of information, whatever the result.
I mean, it's clearly stated on the rules that external conversations are prohibited, so there are not many things that could give him 'special' information.
Also, AmadisLFE faced 4 votes against him and did not state to be Doctor or Cop... so I guess it's safe to assume he's Townie or mafia.

Uh, I was offline? I just returned after a sudden gone of electricity, by the way, what was so convincing that made you all to vote me?

[MangaD]

If you're sure that Hellblazer is not the Cop

I'm not sure of anything, just putting the cards on the table.

AmadisLFE's death would provide us with a lot of information, whatever the result.

So you are willing to sacrifice someone, just to know his identity, whatever the result. That's no different than my first position on the matter, and you proved me wrong. Now you change your mind because hellbalzer gave an hint that sounds fishy. He's the kind of guy that likes to draw attention towards himself, that's why I'm reluctant in lynching AmadisLFE immediately, without having solid proof. I wouldn't be surprised if Hellbalzer were just a townie, and we would lose 2 innocent guys just like that. I dare Hellblazer to say here "I am cop". If someone else is cop, then he will know for sure that Hellblazer is lying and therefore he is a Mafia goon, and will not even bother guessing on him the next night, giving him more chances to find the other goon.

Also, AmadisLFE faced 4 votes against him and did not state to be Doctor or Cop... so I guess it's safe to assume he's Townie or mafia.

I really doubt he has a special role, he would have revealed it by now if that was the case...

If he is doc/cop, it would be stupid to say so. If he is cop and reveals himself, the true doc would be confused on who to heal (Hellbalzer or AmadisLFE), and we could lose the cop. If he is doc and reveals himself, then even if he heals himself next nights, the cop wouldn't be able to reveal himself or the Mafia would know who they both are and just target one of them.

It just looks to me like you are both forcing the cop/doc to reveal themselves... which really sounds suspicious right now. What Hellbalzer is doing could be just a trick to lure the real cop out, and at the same time cover for his teammates. Still, I won't vote for any of you right now, because this is just a theory, and we will know who is who when AmadisLFE dies. If AmadisLFE ends up being a townie, Hellbalzer and TheNave will be next. I guess this settles it then.

Unvote No-Kill. Vote AmadisLFE.

[AmadisLFE]

If you're sure that Hellblazer is not the Cop

I'm not sure of anything, just putting the cards on the table.

AmadisLFE's death would provide us with a lot of information, whatever the result.

So you are willing to sacrifice someone, just to know his identity, whatever the result. That's no different than my first position on the matter, and you proved me wrong. Now you change your mind because hellbalzer gave an hint that sounds fishy. He's the kind of guy that likes to draw attention towards himself, that's why I'm reluctant in lynching AmadisLFE immediately, without having solid proof. I wouldn't be surprised if Hellbalzer were just a townie, and we would lose 2 innocent guys just like that. I dare Hellblazer to say here "I am cop". If someone else is cop, then he will know for sure that Hellblazer is lying and therefore he is a Mafia goon, and will not even bother guessing on him the next night, giving him more chances to find the other goon.

Also, AmadisLFE faced 4 votes against him and did not state to be Doctor or Cop... so I guess it's safe to assume he's Townie or mafia.

I really doubt he has a special role, he would have revealed it by now if that was the case...

If he is doc/cop, it would be stupid to say so. If he is cop and reveals himself, the true doc would be confused on who to heal (Hellbalzer or AmadisLFE), and we could lose the cop. If he is doc and reveals himself, then even if he heals himself next nights, the cop wouldn't be able to reveal himself or the Mafia would know who they both are and just target one of them.

It just looks to me like you are both forcing the cop/doc to reveal themselves... which really sounds suspicious right now. What Hellbalzer is doing could be just a trick to lure the real cop out, and at the same time cover for his teammates. Still, I won't vote for any of you right now, because this is just a theory, and we will know who is who when AmadisLFE dies. If AmadisLFE ends up being a townie, Hellbalzer and TheNave will be next. I guess this settles it then.

Unvote No-Kill. Vote AmadisLFE.

I doubt Hellbalzer is the Cop, probably just a random accusation, oh well.

[Apocalipsis]

So you are willing to sacrifice someone, just to know his identity, whatever the result. That's no different than my first position on the matter, and you proved me wrong.

Like I said, the situation changed. Now it's not a random decision between 11 players. Now there's someone who claims to know certain special information about another player... information relevant enough for him to vote against that person.

If he is doc/cop, it would be stupid to say so.

It would be stupid to don't say so if he's gonna die... it's his only chance of surviving. There aren't any 'nice' outcomes from this if he's a special.

It just looks to me like you are both forcing the cop/doc to reveal themselves... which really sounds suspicious right now.

I clearly stated otherwise in a post in this previous page =_=

Edit: Amadis, stop quoting wall texts if you're not gonna answer to something specifically please.

[AmadisLFE]

So you are willing to sacrifice someone, just to know his identity, whatever the result. That's no different than my first position on the matter, and you proved me wrong.

Like I said, the situation changed. Now it's not a random decision between 11 players. Now there's someone who claims to know certain special information about another player... information relevant enough for him to vote against that person.

If he is doc/cop, it would be stupid to say so.

It would be stupid to don't say so if he's gonna die... it's his only chance of surviving. There aren't any 'nice' outcomes from this if he's a special.

It just looks to me like you are both forcing the cop/doc to reveal themselves... which really sounds suspicious right now.

I clearly stated otherwise in a post in this previous page =_=

Edit: Amadis, stop quoting wall texts if you're not gonna answer to something specifically please.

I have a reason why Hellblazer Wants to vote on me and kill me, he sort of hates me from the day I sent him that PM, ( He doesn't like anyone sending him any weird pm's ), and on Youtube, I said he kept +1'ing his comment, he also deleted me from his Skype and now he wants me out of the game, there is a 0% chance he is the cop, but a 100% chance he just wants me out of this game. Believe me or not, but its true.

[Apocalipsis]

I have a reason why Hellblazer Wants to vote on me and kill me, he sort of hates me from the day I sent him that PM, ( He doesn't like anyone sending him any weird pm's ), and on Youtube, I said he kept +1'ing his comment, he also deleted me from his Skype and now he wants me out of the game, there is a 0% chance he is the cop, but a 100% chance he just wants me out of this game. Believe me or not, but its true.