RaMafia (round 1 - end)

[empirefantasy]

Now i think there is a very high chance that jeremies is mafia. well imo if luti is trolling i hope he is doing so...then it is jeremies and pf (or maybe even the nave).
yeah i think amadis said my friends are ef and luti. if it is so i think neither of them are mafia (at least i know surely for ef lol )

so for now i think it is more safe to vote for jeremies

[Ramond]

In fact I'm pretty sure at least one of them IS Mafia.

[MangaD]

MangaD, dont waste your vote on him, he was always like this when he didnt get a special role...

A good strategy for him?

Go for Jernemies please, we need to work together right now

I don't have any accusations against Jernemies right now. His comments did not seem to contain any flawed logic so far. I still don't get what your charges against him are. You said before that you would explain, but you did not...

Right now, I prefer to vote on Luti, because his death will clear a few doubts that I have. And if he happens to be Mafia, I will turn my attention on you next.

Yes, I did not forget about you, there is still a Godfather out there. And right now you just defended Luti. I would work together with you, if I trusted you; not the case.

[Jernemies]

This is a part I've actually never had to do before. How to defends myself?
I think I'll just go with the standard "but I am a citizen! Honest!"

Though I do think it's only fair Nave elaborates what he has on me, aside from OBVIOUSLY not bothering to reply the thread (Yes, I've checked the thread a couple of times already). I said I'd do an analysis and I never did. Even if I by some miracle make the day round, I'm propably not going to do that Instead focusing on panic-reading to the upcoming entry-exams, so I guess I could be a bigger loss.

I'm voting Luti. Yes, he has a history of trolling. In fact, that's what he does. Even then, last round he swayed all the attention to himself, and even though that round was canceled, it's a thing: he's lying only sometimes. Aaaand he's my only out atm here, so there's that.

Before I go down: don't rule out Nave. I said it last round, I'll do it now: He isn't stupid, watch him. Godfather is a thing, and it doesn't matter all that much anyway with the cop out.

And please don't talk sh*t EF, my vote stands with clear, bold letters at the end of my last post. It was Hellblazer, and I don't think I regret it atm, with the amount of sway he created.

[MangaD]

Godfather is a thing, and it doesn't matter all that much anyway with the cop out.

It matters considering TheNave was checked by Apocalipsis on the first night. So, if he is Mafia, then he is definitely Godfather.

[TheNave]

Oh yeah, about the jernemies thingy...

As a base, I took the list of players Amadis posted at the beginning of day 1, I obviously suspect the people that were either "Townie" or "Unknown"...

Which are Ramond, PF, MangaD, Luti, Jernemies and EF... Ramond is obviously doc...
so out of PF, MangaD, Luti, Jernemies and EF, two must be mafia

this is pretty obvious so far and I guess everyone is at this point at the moment...
MangaD is kinda cleared for me now that Amadis turned out to be a normal goon and not godfather
EF seems to try to help right now, he also was one of the first ones to vote for Amadis on the first day, mafia would have clearly hesitated in his position

so that narrows it down to Luti, Jernemies and PF

Now I got a list on what votes Amadis locked in this game:
Day 1: No-Kill
Day 2: Luti -> Hellblazer
Day 3: Luti -> AmadisLFE

he already voted for luti at day 2, when luti was still kinda inactive and not trolling, when there was no pressure on amadis anymore and nothing on luti either, sacrificing a mafia member in that scenario would be extremly unlikely...
that's why I doubt it's luti

so the only ones remaining are Jernemies and PF... so yah, simple process of elimination... I'd be alright with lynching PF first aswell, I really don't care about order

[Apocalipsis]

You shall not invoke me (?

Seriously though, let's forget about the "ghosts can't talk" rule for the next rounds... I'm so bored D:

[Jernemies]

Oh yeah, about the jernemies thingy...
As a base, I took the list of players Amadis posted at the beginning of day 1, I obviously suspect the people that were either "Townie" or "Unknown"...
Which are Ramond, PF, MangaD, Luti, Jernemies and EF... Ramond is obviously doc...
so out of PF, MangaD, Luti, Jernemies and EF, two must be mafia........
.......

While this is well based in logic, you're not accounting my (+ pf's, I don't think anyone else was missing) inactivity at that point in the game. I posted my first thoughts partially in response to that post, and Amadis would have looked pretty stupid making statistics out of thin air, considering my only post was in response to a question about the rules. True, this isn't a clearance, inactivity being a semi-viable mafia strategy after all, but anyway.

Code:

What could happen besides this point:
Kill me -> innocent -> suddenly the logic against pf falls apart -> see if Luti is swaying -> ???
                                                                -> keep the finger pointed at Pf -> ???
                                                                -> Go after Amadis' list -> EF -> ???
                                                                -> Nave's evil shenanigans -> ???
                                                                -> MangaD's a master bluff apparently -> ???
Kill Luti -> see if he's swaying -> he isn't -> go for EF -> win
                                -> he is -> EF propably isn't it, so pf -> ???
                                         -> Nave -> ???
                                         -> Mangad -> ???
Kill PF -> mafia -> I die
                -> ofc not, I'm obvs innocent after that
       -> innocent -> suddenly the logic against me falls apart -> Luti -> ???
                                                                -> EF -> ???
                                                                -> Nave -> ???
                                                                -> Nah ofc not me -> ???
                                                                -> Mangad -> ???
Kill Nave -> godfather -> everything he's said can and will be used against him -> I don't even want to look into this mess now -> ???

Hopefully I didn't mess up somewhere, but way I see it, Luti is the least bad idea of the bunch, seeing how all we have is sway, more sway and all too much sh*t on our hands. After this kill, there's 3:2 after the night, which is horrible for the already very divided citizens. I just have this hunch it's either Nave or Mangad being mafia if it turns out EF and/or Luti aren't. Pf is definitely a possibility, and I don't think he'll survive much longer anyway at this rate.

Ramond wasn't included because nobody in their right minds would go after him for obvious reasons. In case you couldn't tell.

Somehow, the biggest amount of logic I've shown this game was a quick defensive post made in 3 AM. GJ me.

[LutiChris]

I guess in pf's case... silence inactivity really does buy him extra time

[AmadisLFE]

You shall not invoke me (?

Seriously though, let's forget about the "ghosts can't talk" rule for the next rounds... I'm so bored D:

I agree, aaaaand its raining, dunno why I decided to add the its Raining Part.