RaMafia (round 1 - end)

[prince_freeza]

[mfc]

Okay. This is it. I will use my latest trump card against mafia.

Spare me my life.

I would use embedded player but that doesnt support time tag share function.

If you kill me after this, you are no longer classified as human anymore.

[Apocalipsis]

@A-Man Sorry for that. Your actions, lies, and effort to save yourself while accusing others were just too suspicious. I had to check whether or not you were really on the Mafia side. But your death will not be in vain, I hope.

+1

Now tell us the truth, what really happened between you and Luti? So far he has denied everything you said against him. But now we know that we can trust you (before we couldn't, not after that fake plot you did). So your word has actual credit now. What are your opinions? Who do you think is Mafia and who do you think is not?

Well, like he said, he was telling the truth before being lynched. Luti definitely sent that PM. The question now is why he did it. Either he's a mafia/thug, or an extremely deviant citizen.

@prince_feeza: Let's not argue about the past now. What is gone is gone (even though I am not really gone , Yohohoho XD)

True. The only difference between then and now, is that you cannot vote anymore. But as ghost talk is allowed, you can keep talking as much as you did before. And now, your conclusions are supported by the fact that you're 100% innocent.

@mfc
why do you suspect me to be the doctor? i'm a little surprised

edit) also can you list the reasons as to why STM and Apoc are Mafia as well as prince_freeza being the sheriff?

Same doubts here, but this is what I think:
*[If he's citizen] The almost completely opposing predictions may be a tactic to confuse mafias. If he nailed a couple of them in the first prediction, his live may very well be in danger this night. With the second one, he could be trying to say "I switched my attention to these guys now".
*[If he's citizen] He changed his opinion after analyzing the votings. I understand why he targets STM and me, we voted against A-MAN who turned out to be innocent, but I'm not sure about MnM. Maybe because he voted Amadis for no apparent reason.
*[If he's mafia] Assuming you [Luti] are mafia, he could be trying to protect you. You know, "Maybe Luti's the Doctor, we shouldn't lynch him so carelessly". Seems really unlikely to me, though.
*Random mfc is random.

[LutiChris]

Group 1 voted for A-Man, Group 2 people who voted for other players, Group 3 didn't vote, Group 4... innactive

Group 1 mfc, MangaD, STM, Luti, Apocalipsis
Group 2 Rhino.Freak, pf, MnM
Group 3 Hellblazer, A-Man, empirefantasy
Group 4 Amadis

I don't suspect mfc to be mafia (as he made jokes about nobody suspecting he was mafia which seems to be kinda risky if he were to be mafia) and i know i'm a deviant townie, i'm wondering if mafia member's even voted for A-Man and chose to be silent on this issue. This makes me rule out group 1 and makes me wonder if Group 2 are possible candidates as well as Group 3 and 4 since they have been mostly silent. I'm not completely sold that Rhino.Freak is a mafia member since he just appears to be more of a victim. Empirefantasy is mayor so i guess i can make an exception to ignore his connection with mafia at least momentarily. Amadis i have no clue.

The Somewhat Silent Suspect list: pf, MnM, Hellblazer and Amadis
I'm not too sure about this but i just felt like grouping them together.

Any thoughts?

[MangaD]

Spoiler (Click to View)

Group 1 voted for A-Man, Group 2 people who voted for other players, Group 3 didn't vote, Group 4... innactive

Group 1 mfc, MangaD, STM, Luti, Apocalipsis
Group 2 Rhino.Freak, pf, MnM
Group 3 Hellblazer, A-Man, empirefantasy
Group 4 Amadis

I don't suspect mfc to be mafia (as he made jokes about nobody suspecting he was mafia which seems to be kinda risky if he were to be mafia) and i know i'm a deviant townie, i'm wondering if mafia member's even voted for A-Man and chose to be silent on this issue. This makes me rule out group 1 and makes me wonder if Group 2 are possible candidates as well as Group 3 and 4 since they have been mostly silent. I'm not completely sold that Rhino.Freak is a mafia member since he just appears to be more of a victim. Empirefantasy is mayor so i guess i can make an exception to ignore his connection with mafia at least momentarily. Amadis i have no clue.

The Somewhat Silent Suspect list: pf, MnM, Hellblazer and Amadis
I'm not too sure about this but i just felt like grouping them together.

Any thoughts?

That is an interesting set up. But we can infer little from it. It is very possible that someone from the Mafia voted on A-Man to make sure a citizen would die. I do not think they'd be stupid enough to all vote on him though. But it is also possible - though unlikely - that no one from the Mafia voted on him, or that all Mafia voted on him.

About not suspecting mfc to be Mafia, that's an empty statement. His jokes were so obvious that no one would take them seriously. It is not risky, it means nothing. In fact, you may notice all his posts were trolling, something a Mafia could do just to have something to say, while keeping himself clean.

You are a deviant townie indeed, like A-Man was. However, you should consider that there is a limit to it, before your jokes start to be taken seriously. And then Amen. (I was joking about lynching you btw. Not doing any lynching again without a cop. )

Well, see the bright said of A-Man's demise. At least there is 1 less suspect and + someone we can trust.

About Rhino.Freak, he's as likely to be Mafia as anyone else. Same about empirefantasy.

So yeah, my suggestion is that we continue trolling.

[MnM]

@LutiChris : silence means I am busy IRL. Fyi , exams. Also turns out A-Man is a citizen after all. Amadis could be the person of interest.

P.S : I don't know why mfc keeps on marking himself as the citizen though. It's a bit suspicious.

[A-Man]

I'd like to shed some light on this post:

Here's some possible scenario's that might play out...

1) He got contacted, so in that case...

• it could be his mafia teammate, a plan that involves either one of them attracting attention (UNLIKELY as that is too risky and too early at this stage of the game)
  
• A-Man is innocent and mafia contacted him for fun? the plan could make A-Man reveal the information and make everyone skeptical if he was perceived as a townie victim or just attract more attention to him and see if he gets lynched instead PROBABLE
  
• Could be the work of a townie i suppose? (seems out of character for one to do that: UNLIKELY)
  

2) No one said anything???

• I mean, unless its crazy to assume there is some tactical plan to this approach. This begs the question. Why even mention it? mafia plan? PROBABLE
  
• A-Man is mafia and is going with a risky move by revealing possible information for us? still... its too early in the game for that UNLIKELY
  
• Townie willing to risk attracting unnecessary attention, for what benefit? UNLIKELY
  

Having these two probabilities presented side to side is kind of hard to determine unless we look at A-Man's behavior... still its hard to say
these are slightly intuitive on my part but they seem reasonable to conclude, what do you guys think? Am i thinking too much about a farce or do you think this information is something valid?

It was posted after I said I've received a PM from someone, and BEFORE I posted the fake screenshot which surprised Luti and apparently caused him to change his premises.

1) He got contacted, so in that case...
[*] it could be his mafia teammate, a plan that involves either one of them attracting attention (UNLIKELY as that is too risky and too early at this stage of the game)

Nope, as it was proved.

[*] A-Man is innocent and mafia contacted him for fun? the plan could make A-Man reveal the information and make everyone skeptical if he was perceived as a townie victim or just attract more attention to him and see if he gets lynched instead PROBABLE

hmmmmm

[*] Could be the work of a townie i suppose? (seems out of character for one to do that: UNLIKELY)

True. It's great you agree its out of character.

[mfc]

I don't know why mfc keeps on marking himself as the citizen though. It's a bit suspicious.

The Updated Prophecy (Click to View)

1. A-Man - Citizen
2. Rhino - Citizen
3. prince - Sheriff
4. STM - Mafia
5. Hellblazer - Thug
6. MnM - Mafia
7. Luti - Doctor
8. MangaD - Citizen
9. mfc - Mafia
10. Amadis - Citizen
11. Jernemies - Thug
12. Apocalipsis - Mafia
13. empirefantasy - Citizen

Seriously... Is that really suspicious? When the heck I marked myself as citizen, I cannot even remember.

[Rhino.Freak]

How can there be 4 mafias when there are only 7 people in the world?

[LutiChris]

[*] Could be the work of a townie i suppose? (seems out of character for one to do that: UNLIKELY)

True. It's great you agree its out of character.

i see what you're trying to do

When you add the fact that i'm a deviant citizen due to my previous and current playthroughs you'll see why this is not unlikely.