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Classic Mafia - Conclusion!
#61
First of all, wow, mfc. T-thanks for kind of ruining the game, I suppose.

Regarding the Rhino potential Cop thing, if I were a Mafia, I'd target him this night. If the doctor saves someone tonight, we can be at least a little more sure about Rhino's towniness. Otherwise, the Mafia not targetting, or rather, not being able to target him (because as far as I know, Mafia can't normally aim at themselves, can they?), that would be a point in favour of Ramond's claim that he is the Godfather.

EDIT: Though I can't seem to dismiss the idea that everything has been just some machiavellian play designed by Mfc and Rhino to trick us all. I mean, mfc wouldn't be that sore of a loser, would he?. Guess I'll see how things unfold after mfc dies.

(02-27-2016, 02:17 PM)Ramond Wrote:  There's a twist. The Cop gets a bullet (similar to my pre-RaMafia round) that he can protect himself with at night. The problem is he would shoot the Doc if Mafia doesn't target him but Doc does (very much like Trapper). Therefore I wouldn't recommend the Doc to save me this night.

I also never said I was Cop.

Annnndd this sounds like bullsh*t. This game was designed to be completely clear and transparent with its rules, why would the Cop have such an undisclosed ability?
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(02-27-2016, 05:10 PM)Darl Wrote:  Though I can't seem to dismiss the idea that everything has been just some machiavellian play designed by the Mfc and Rhino to trick us all. I mean, mfc wouldn't be that sore of a loser, would he?. Guess I'll see how things unfold after mfc dies.

That's the thing. I agree with you, Darl. I specifically posted my previous post just to anger mfc and add even more salt to the situation which seemed to be pretty hot and intense. I expected him to be thrown off by that. At least by a little bit. But he hasn't reacted a pinch and that makes me worried that he (and probably Rhino) are acting by a predefined plan. In which case... it shouldn't be all that bad, because we know townies are not allowed to talk to each other and thus make any plans. So ultimately that makes mfc even more suspicious. And Rhino. Him too.

So I'm still sticking with my vote.
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(02-27-2016, 04:48 PM)Rhino.Freak Wrote:  He wants to convince doctor to not save the cop because he might get killed. Seriously. Lol.

Reading is beneficial. I said he shouldn't save me, not the Cop.

Nave, if you were truly citizen, you would know just as I do there is no better way to have Mafia slip than to exercise enough pressure. You're calling me working against town while Citizens cannot really act based on anything. I knew it would boil down to this hence I didn't want to join the game initially. But if it is so, then go ahead. I suggest the Mafia kill me next night already. I'm tired of having this same discussion with you every game.
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Welp, this has been a fun round so far, right gaiz?
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(02-27-2016, 05:06 PM)TheNave Wrote:  @Ramond
You'll be the next one I'll vote on to lynch next day, it's pretty obvious you're not cooperating with town and if you're trolling and not Mafia yourself you should die aswell for working against us

You are not following the cat's way, you are not cooperating with town. And those who don't agree with the cat shall be punished.

For the rest, well, sorry for ruining it but I really cannot stand people are not acting as if they are the part of team. I just cannot tolerate and sorry, mafia will lose a bit anti-climatically but not my fault from my pov.
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@Darl

Yeah totally great.....

Mfc, no offense but you are pretty bad.....By that I mean REALLY bad as a mafia.
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#67
Mfc got rng checked by the Cop the first night, that was pretty unlucky for him and has nothing to do with playing bad

@Darl there is a possibility of Rhino + mfc following some Masterplan but if that'd the case the real Cop would step up soon eough, as long as this is not the case we have to go along with Rhino beeing the cop and trust him for now

Current Situation is: mfc 100% Mafia confirmed, he said so himself and got checked by the one thats most likely the Cop
Additionally ramond is trying to spread mistrust between everyone and defending mfc... That makes him second Mafia most likely...
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(02-27-2016, 05:28 PM)Simoneon Wrote:  he (and probably Rhino) are acting by a predefined plan.

We were speculating on this plan but he acted by himself and I am punishing him like this. Sorry again if it ruins the game for your tastes:/

(02-27-2016, 06:11 PM)TheNave Wrote:  ramond is trying to spread mistrust between everyone and defending mfc... That makes him second Mafia most likely...

>Implying someone as godly and experienced, "written the book of the game" as Don the Ram would openly risk his position such openly from the first day. Yeah, defending the 100% mafia in first day makes you a mafia and ramond couldnt predict it.
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Darl Wrote:I mean, mfc wouldn't be that sore of a loser, would he?.

I bet that hit him right in the heart :p

I really must say mfc played it cool and you guys having doubts on me is natural. But I'm ready to answer all questions, that's all I can do really.
Or if you still think I'm a mafia then let me check a few more nights, find the other mafia goon and then lynch me. Town still wins EVEN IF I am a mafia. Fair enough right?

I must say that mfc's story is very very convenient for his situation. Plus mafia HAVE to be stupid pull this thing off with such a steep mafia to townie ratio.
Mfc is not ruining the game, he just played his death VERY good :p
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(02-27-2016, 06:24 PM)Rhino.Freak Wrote:  Plus mafia HAVE to be stupid pull this thing off with such a steep mafia to townie ratio.

And yet you made it happen. I mean, It was alright when you did the no-vote at the beginning but right before when I woke up came online and we could talk, you ruined all by launching the wrong plan. Good, you call it now stupid, I wish you acted as it was.

But on the other hand, you were the one who said that "they will believe i am cop, they will give enough trust and cop will reveal himself prematurely" and so on..
You only had to wait until my confirmation. But you know, best part is that you are now very very trusted. I still hope the actual cop hides his identity a bit longer, since this was actually a plan to reveal special identities early on.

Real cop will see you as a citizen too but it only should confirm the fact that you are the godfather more. I hope this analysis helped you to grasp situation.

Edit: It is the Rule of Thumb in mafia games: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?titl...lay_Advice
"Do not prematurely claim, particularly Day 1."

Well, this is the reason I want actual cop to stay hidden a bit more:p
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