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03-02-2016, 06:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2016, 06:18 PM by Ramond.)
Mafia is usually much more agitated (more than Citizens) when they're accused out of the blue.
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You assume im agitated, fail. Show me where im emotional. I can be hard pressed when taking an issue further. What qualifys in your book as agitated?
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I accused you not because of above reason, but because you were so dead set on defending Bamboori on my above charges.
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03-02-2016, 06:26 PM
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I fail to see how defending bamboori makes me mafia. Im not dead set on defending him, i'll change my mind when i have to. Just because he is now more active is due to accusations against him. I dont see how that is suspicious. That argument is so weak on face value because anyone will do the same thing. That is why i was being critical and defending that position. Nothing wrong with temporary defence
You are acting suspicious as you are quick to jump to me, apoc and now bamboori so quickly. Are you bloodthirsty?
Edit) let me remind you all. I am deadset on arguing not deadset on defending people.
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03-02-2016, 07:01 PM
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Sorry won't post again I swear lol XD
(03-20-2016, 06:41 PM)mfc Wrote: Be the unsqueezable sponge! My new life motto!
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03-02-2016, 08:01 PM
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Ok, last attempt to stop you from facepalming.
@ TheNave
I reread the whole thread, and your reasons to suspect Ramond, Luti and me are:
(02-28-2016, 09:34 AM)TheNave Wrote: - Ramond (85%) - Highly suspicious! He went along with mfcs 'Rhino is mafia, too'-lie without even hesitating while criticizing all town-sided scenarios people came up with, also made up that fake Cop ability to prevent the doc from saving rhino tonight, all his actions made no sense from a citizen point of view...
- LutiChris (50%) - Sigh, dunno about that one, I think his posts are just pure troll and should be ignored, we could decide to lynch him when we have no better clues because trolling is never helping and just working against the town... for a second I thought his posts might have influenced Ramond, but now that their correct position has been restored I could confirm that that's not the case at all
(03-01-2016, 02:49 PM)TheNave Wrote: @Citizens
Don't you guys think it's strange for Rhino to die this night, in my opinion that was a pretty risky move from the mafia considering the chance he was protected was quite high... Before the night ended it seemed that Rhino did show some trust torwards me so Mafia probably thought he'd check one of the two guys (Luti or Somin) I said were most likely mafia... That means atleast one of those must be a Mafia Goon and they were scared he'd actually get the right one, thus leading to such a risky move and actually targeting him that Night
That just confirms it even more for me atleast LutiChris or Simoneon must be mafia, maybe even both
While the reasons in the first quote are valid, they don't sound like very strong reasons.
And the second is even worst... I didn't perceive Rhino's trust towards you. If you remember well, after he was killed, he accused you and Jernemies. And don't you think that the Mafias risked it just because he was awfully dangerous to them, whoever they are?
Obviously, the thing about the probabilities. You also said:
(03-02-2016, 11:57 AM)TheNave Wrote: and yes, having Apoc around is probably more usefull than bamboori, but having apoc around that is mafia is way worse
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Actually, no. Having Apoc around this game isn't even good to beginn with... did he bring up anything usefull other than a hunch and wrong math that will end up killing citizens? did he in any way just once look at what the players are even talking and basing his accusation on that? No. He didn't, he's not helping Town at all this round... period. (03-02-2016, 12:32 PM)TheNave Wrote: @empirefantasy
please elaborate how Apoc is generally providing usefull information...
I'm on @Jernemies side here, he's just trying to waste our lynches
But you're contradicting yourself from the past day:
(03-02-2016, 12:32 PM)TheNave Wrote: - Apocalipsis (35%) - Actively playing the game, consideres multiple scenarios from every point of view like Apoc typically does it, also taunted mfc... he's an experienced player so it might be an act but for now he didn't look suspicious to me yet
Just because it wasn't smart to use that as a reason to vote, it doesn't mean I wasn't helping before (in your eyes). Let me remind you that players have been using RNGs to decide (and it could be forged) and you didn't vote against them. At worst, what I did is just as bad as what they did.
As for me accusing just because of hunches:
All the people that I voted against, as far as I remember, are mfc, Amadis, Luti and Bamboori. My opinions about them from the previous day:
(02-29-2016, 06:44 PM)Apocalipsis Wrote: - Amadis: Active. He goes with the flow in this game, just like in the last game (this might be his way of playing). TORNADO said he wanted to lynch him next phase, and he died at night (he may have been joking, but these are facts).
- Bamboori: Active.
- LutiChris: Inactive (then started trolling). He's always like this.
Unfortunately, I still don't have enough information to make a 'secure' vote. Also, there are some players which I find suspicious, because there was nothing I could put on the list about them (they blend very well): Bamboori and Empirefantasy.
Against all predictions, I'm voting Amadis again. It may be that his way of talking always makes me suspicious of him, but I felt the same in the last game, and he was Mafia.
I explained why I lynched Amadis on that post, and here I explain why I voted Luti:
(03-01-2016, 05:53 PM)Apocalipsis Wrote: I don't know why everyone followed my vote against Amadis, honestly. I was just using simple facts and a hunch. But it's not as bad as it appears, since if we get to know Luti's role now, and he ends up being Mafia, then I would have something against Bamboori, Simoneon and Darl (even though he's safe for now, because he was checked).
That's why I was going to vote against Luti today. But for some reason I wake up and I see Nave voting for himself... I imagine he would try to save himself at all cost if he were to be Citizen, to don't lose another day round lynching an innocent guy.
Still, I think I'll vote against Luti. It's not that easy to get 5 votes, in ~7 hours, without even asking for them.
As for the underlying reasons against Bamboori: I honestly can't figure him out, and I wanted (I still want) to know his role. He acts kind of clueless sometimes, and is active enough as to remain unsuspected. Plus I kinda relate him to Luti (because he saved him in the tie-break), even though it's a weak clue (unless Luti ends up being Mafia).
I would like to know Bamboori's role right now, but I'm willing to vote against Luti if that stops you from killing me.
To follow what I was thinking before changing my vote to Bamboori, if Luti dies and he's mafia:
*Nave is probably safe, since he guided everyone to lynch him in the past day (got up to 5 votes).
*Something against Simoneon and Bamboori: they bandwagoned my vote against Amadis, maybe to save him.
*Something favorable to Simeoneon: Luti was really inactive until Simon brought him up to the front scene after revealing his deleted posts.
*The following players would have voted against a mafia: Nave (Day 2 and 3), Ramond (Day 2 and 3), Empirefantasy (Day 2), Jernemies (Day 2), without counting today's votes.
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03-02-2016, 08:07 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2016, 08:26 PM by LutiChris.
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Apoc Wrote:Something favorable to Simeoneon: Luti was really inactive until he brought him up to the front scene after revealing his deleted posts. That's contradictory, in order for those posts to be there in the first place i would have to be active. At the time they were only visible to the moderators for the express purpose of trolling.
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@ Apocalipsis
not changing my mind though, but rest asured, I'll probably go for Luti the next day anyways, and since you're not the doctor, you can only be mafia or a citizen, as normal citizen you wouldn't oppose sacrificing yourself for the greater good, would you?
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03-02-2016, 09:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2016, 09:17 PM by Apocalipsis.)
(03-02-2016, 11:24 AM)Apocalipsis Wrote: I cannot stop you from lynching me. I thought that maybe it would be a good idea to claim to be the Doctor to remain alive, but in the end it would only make the Doctor appear for nothing, and that's even worse than a Townie dying.
I wouldn't mind "sacrificing" myself, if it would help you somehow. What clues will you get after you lynch me and I'm confirmed as citizen?
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@ luti. yes you 3 voted for amadis, accourding to stm. tell me if he is wrong
(03-01-2016, 03:22 AM)STM1993 Wrote: Classic Mafia - Night 2
Actually i voted for the main reason: bambori coz i wanted to see who would follow it. second reason was to watch his reaction and other players reaction in general. i was waiting for luti or simon to go with voting, as they were more suspicious, but surprisingly APOC and DARL joined without even giving any good reason.
this leads me to an unknown stage and i have to rethink about my vote. temporary NO VOTE
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